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Old 10-29-2013, 11:48 PM   #11
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Well sure.

Insomuch as ingesting any supplement is frauding.

I don't juice and agree it's a shortcut with potential long term issues even if done in a perfectly controlled manner.

One could say the same for all the amphetamines in most pre-workouts these days, though. Just because it's methylated doesn't make it a different compound once the body absorbs it (sup prohoromones!)
The only thing I take is a post work-out protein shake and a strong diet. That's just eating correctly; a simple correction of food intake.

Steroids are a completely different subject matter.

Even if you are following the most up to date science on lifting and eating, taking a multi, taking preworkout and cutting every angle, it's not the same. You can try to argue that supplementation is a form of "cheating", but it's not. You're simply maximizing what you're naturally given.

Once you inject a steroid ONCE, it's no longer a competition against yourself or your own limitations, genetically. You're giving up, and saying "I'm not good enough, no matter how hard I try" even though you haven't put forth the effort to maximize your own potential. Weightlifting is a process, a long one at that. It's a reality check. Anyone who opts for steroids is a fucking joke in my estimation.
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