who banned the goat?
 

Please unban him.

Veritas is one thing.... we all kno he will be back

But can we really risk losing the GOAT?

Wouldn't have banned that comical fuck, personally.

Maybe at one point in time tho. lol

Aero is banned? wtf

someone fucking up

Wasn't me. This topic seems redundant, though.

Bags you should participate in Write Week #3.

And if you don't, you should change your name. The novelty has worn off.

I am you and you are me. You know I'm right.

I was gonna change it but then neighbor wanted to play too :(

I KNOW U DID THIS PANCAKE

maake me Bags Payne

Also

I will play ur.poem gane

But i am buzzed and will write anything i want

Whoevers banning people n shit are scum.

I'm pretty sure Aero changed his own user title lol

I wonder, seeing as how I'm already probably stronger than Neighbor with natural weight training, how much stronger and swoll-er I'd be than him if I injected steroids into my body like a shallow female getting a tit job.

cake is drunk and ornery and taking shots at neighbor

this will be a good thread

I agree with the drunk part. I'm not particularly ornery.

i dunno cake the end of that last post was pretty ornery

also highly unlikely aero is actually banned or he'd be threadshitting to nobody on PR like he did the last time he got banned

I mean, injecting steroids is the male equivalent of getting a tit job.

Agree/disagree @Diode

Nah. Getting muscle implants or using synthol is more apt.

You still have to do a lot of work to make steroids effective. You have to do nothing but show up and get instant results with a tit job.

For a female I'd liken it more towards binging and purging or taking amphetamines to lose weight.

Fixed

well played.

You're probably correct.

I was aiming for the 'changing your genetics' angle, though.

Either way it's frauding.

Well sure.

Insomuch as ingesting any supplement is frauding.

I don't juice and agree it's a shortcut with potential long term issues even if done in a perfectly controlled manner.

One could say the same for all the amphetamines in most pre-workouts these days, though. Just because it's methylated doesn't make it a different compound once the body absorbs it (sup prohoromones!)

The only thing I take is a post work-out protein shake and a strong diet. That's just eating correctly; a simple correction of food intake.

Steroids are a completely different subject matter.

Even if you are following the most up to date science on lifting and eating, taking a multi, taking preworkout and cutting every angle, it's not the same. You can try to argue that supplementation is a form of "cheating", but it's not. You're simply maximizing what you're naturally given.

Once you inject a steroid ONCE, it's no longer a competition against yourself or your own limitations, genetically. You're giving up, and saying "I'm not good enough, no matter how hard I try" even though you haven't put forth the effort to maximize your own potential. Weightlifting is a process, a long one at that. It's a reality check. Anyone who opts for steroids is a fucking joke in my estimation.

Just to be devil's advocate here..

One could argue that juicing extends those limitations, allowing you to work that much harder, and that anything that allows you to reach your full potential is worth it.

Common pre-workouts include enough amphetamines to do just as much "cheating" of your natural ability to qualify against your moral outrage, to be perfectly honest. I have no cognitive dissonance in recognizing that the DMAA in my original Jack3d is giving me more endurance that I would have naturally.. hence why it is banned by any professional and most amateur sports organizations.