how good was Allen Iverson

[PancakeBrah]

AI is the most overrated professional sports player of my lifetime. He is 90% persona, and the people who identified with him or wanted to be him fail to see how absolutely horrendous he was in respect to truly great players.

[Strikta]

Umm.

Larry Hughes was solid as fuck for atleast 2 years.. one of the best defenders in the league at that time.

[Allen Knight]

Originally Posted by Philly

Yea Shaq... plus Antoine Walker, Jason Williams, and an old Gary Payton.


Wade didn't do it on his own. Wade's a beast though too...
but give him Matt Geiger and Eric Snow and see what happens

foreal, not taking shit away from wade but he had alot of ppl

[...the Nagger]

Originally Posted by PancakeBrah

AI is the most overrated professional sports player of my lifetime. He is 90% persona, and the people who identified with him or wanted to be him fail to see how absolutely horrendous he was in respect to truly great players.

he won scoring titles and dominated the league man. wtf?

if you didn't watch basketball, just say that

its like saying Marino was overrated

[...the Nagger]

Originally Posted by Strikta

Umm.

Larry Hughes was solid as fuck for atleast 2 years.. one of the best defenders in the league at that time.

lol

he led the league in steals once

and I was wrong. hughes went to GS before the Wiz

dk how I forgot that

he led the league in steals once, but he wasn't a dope on ball defender or anything I don't think? he just lived in the passing lanes

[Philly]

Like where your heads at Eddie.
Larry Hughes was by no means a slouch though.

Averaged 20+ for multiple teams in other seasons.
Only played his full rookie season with the sixers

- you got to it before me

[PancakeBrah]

Originally Posted by ...the Munster

he won scoring titles and dominated the league man. wtf?

if you didn't watch basketball, just say that

its like saying Marino was overrated

He is one of the worst high-volume shooters in the history of the league.

if you don't understand stats, just say that

brb going 10/25, scoring 30 points.

His career field goal percentage, combined with the amount of shots he took, makes him just above-average as a player. Horrible 3-point shot, too.

[Philly]

You don't actually understand basketball cake, it's okay.

It's tough to make a high % of shots when your team needs you to score 30+ to win...
and the same time the other team knows no one else will hit anything consistently, so they all help.

The Heat buying Lebron and Bosh made all three members of the "big three" shooting percentage go up.
If Lebron was sent to Charlotte next year you'd see a big drop in FG%.

Plus AI willed his team to victory with 30+ points as the smallest person on the court usually

[God Of War]

i can even read this thread but mike wrecka shouldnt be allowed in it

[God Of War]

Originally Posted by PancakeBrah

He is one of the worst high-volume shooters in the history of the league.

if you don't understand stats, just say that

brb going 10/25, scoring 30 points.

His career field goal percentage, combined with the amount of shots he took, makes him just above-average as a player. Horrible 3-point shot, too.

when you got fucking high schoolers on ur team you got to shoot more then the other players. his supporting cast was absolutely ass and iverson had to try to take the games in his hands to even come close to winning

[Inno]

Cake by your logic carmelo anthony is horrible

Agree?

[...the Nagger]

Originally Posted by Philly

You don't actually understand basketball cake, it's okay.

It's tough to make a high % of shots when your team needs you to score 30+ to win...
and the same time the other team knows no one else will hit anything consistently, so they all help.

The Heat buying Lebron and Bosh made all three members of the "big three" shooting percentage go up.
If Lebron was sent to Charlotte next year you'd see a big drop in FG%.

Plus AI willed his team to victory with 30+ points as the smallest person on the court usually

he ain't gonna have no comeback for this

[PancakeBrah]

Originally Posted by Innovator

Cake by your logic carmelo anthony is horrible

Agree?

I do agree.

[PancakeBrah]

Originally Posted by Philly

You don't actually understand basketball cake, it's okay.

It's tough to make a high % of shots when your team needs you to score 30+ to win...
and the same time the other team knows no one else will hit anything consistently, so they all help.

The Heat buying Lebron and Bosh made all three members of the "big three" shooting percentage go up.
If Lebron was sent to Charlotte next year you'd see a big drop in FG%.

Plus AI willed his team to victory with 30+ points as the smallest person on the court usually

Typical bro-fan logic.

Been in too many sports debates with people who think like this. I could bring out advanced stats and arguments/articles from basketball writers infinitely more versed in the nuances of the game than you or me that basically turn your bro-fan arguments to shit, which they are. But it won't matter, because people who think AI is some great of the game are past being able to reason with in any sensible manner. They're little kids fascinated by pretty colors. There's no room for logic.

[Philly]

So your argument against that is that my argument is based on bro-fan logic...
hmmm. I guess I'll concede

[God Of War]

Originally Posted by PancakeBrah

Typical bro-fan logic.

Been in too many sports debates with people who think like this. I could bring out advanced stats and arguments/articles from basketball writers infinitely more versed in the nuances of the game than you or me that basically turn your bro-fan arguments to shit, which they are. But it won't matter, because people who think AI is some great of the game are past being able to reason with in any sensible manner. They're little kids fascinated by pretty colors. There's no room for logic.

lmao sports writers dont know the game better then hard core fans man because they just write well its why they got there job. stats dont mean as much as you think at the end of the day. ai had a high shot percentage because he had to take alot of shots for his team to even come close to winning a game. did you watch the games? because i watched for every game i could back then nba league pass etc and u could see it clear as day. if u pass a ball to 5 people and they dont score and 10 other people is shooting and they dont score then you take as many shots as you can

[PancakeBrah]

Basically.

Allen Iverson's overrated as shit. Sucks donkey dick. Can't win a championship with him as your best player of player like him. Appeals to a certain type of person, who will overrate the fuck out of him. Would not trade Jimmy Butler for in his prime Allen Iverson crew.

[PancakeBrah]

Originally Posted by God Of War

lmao sports writers dont know the game better then hard core fans

Some do. Go read Zach Lowe or Brett Koremonos. They know basketball better than you, and you can learn some stuff. Like me!

[Inno]

@...the Munster

Where do rank wade?

[Philly]

Ah shit, I changed my title and it's not red anymore.
@Meth can you do that shit up again homie