all this gay debate shit going round

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Originally Posted by oats

I have made a clear argument, numerous times. If anything, the whole "everything is natural" argument was a rebuttal to what I was saying about homosexuality.

My argument: Modern human society is built on a series of unnatural phenomenon, with "natural" defined as "something that occurs freely in nature," with "freely" meaning there are numerous, readily demonstrable examples.

Implications: Labeling something as immoral via being unnatural is a false assertion and cannot be made.

Thx

Now, what I am saying is this- the other connotation of the word "natural", as used by people in the homosexuality debate, implies that something is "with the will of nature", or is something that occurs/ 'comes to be' regardless of choice

As in skyscrapers and genetic modifications 'came to be' in order to efficiently house urban businesses that allow our society to function. And people see homosexuality as something that didnt 'come to be' because it serves no role in society

And I'm saying it is natural, because if it is a result of formative upbringing or early child development, and influence by culture, then it is inherently a part of human nature, and therefore within the scope of being purposeful



That might be poorly argued idk. I don't debate usually