I like Eminem

[dull boy]

Originally Posted by Clout

Az - rather unique, thoughts?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0PccPy_pTM

That's probably my favorite track by AZ. Easily better than anything off the KOD album I just listened to.

[boof]

nobody uses more skill ineffectively than em

his song writing has been trash for a decade plus

he's one of the greatest of all time at rhyme schemes flow and intensity like for real i think thats about it.

[Amen]

That isn't big baby.

[~RustyGunZ~]

Originally Posted by big baby

tbh kendrick is good and lyrical but to say his form of writing is more intricate or impressive than em isn't solid? what textcees do anything that em does? besides really good "rhymers" like neigh or db himself? i read a lot of battles here and nothing is really
impressive LYRICALLY. cool little wordplays and punches, but in theory that's tired and easy to do. if u think karaoke or cashijs are at the pinnacle of rhyming or anything of that nature u r clearly probably not the greatest writer. i haven't listened to end album and i probably won't even though I'm defending him here. cole is a good writer, but to say he's better lyrically is weird as fuck. i bump cole songs but better lyrically? song making and lyricism aren't the same lol. also literally almost nobody here is an amazing rhymer. I'm gewd friends with bagga but i don't hesitate to tell
him he sucks anytime i get. but i do understand he's considered cool and good, here. it's just silly saying eminem sucks. if he were on nc he'd be the people's champ prob and prob be pushed to go mainstream cause he'd be the best there or something retarded. em music generally sucks nowadays and u can't bump it on the car = doesn't equate to him not being good lyrically

this was kind of mush mouthed but his music doesn't bump in the car and it's content is trash anywhere else too lol

what do you define lyrical as? I consider content that is thought provoking, relevant, and well delivered to be lyrical. I consider rhyme schemes that flow to a beat flawlessly and make you vibe with it to be lyrical.

I guess in some peoples eyes just making wordplays means you're lyrical?

Nothing else anyone has said Em does so well isn't replicated in any of the other music i've mentioned. to say KOD isn't lyrical is fucking retarded.

If you're asking who does what Eminem does (rhyming the very bestest by doing amazing things like using schemes that have the same syllables but not the same # of words! and using wordplays) better than I guess no one because it's his style and there's a reason no one listens to him anymore and his albums all sell worth shit?

[dull boy]

I'd really like to avoid separating people into groups here, but it just seems like some people get it and some don't...

KOD's songs are easy to write. It's the production and delivery that make them entertaining. I'M NOT SAYING that it's bad. I'm just saying that if we're talking about lyricism, then

I know that it's difficult
I'm stackin' this paper, it's sort of habitual
I blow the residual
And fuckin' yo bitch like its part of my ritual
Pardon the visual
But money, it give me a hard-on it's typical
I want it in physical
A million dollars, I count up in intervals
Without it I'm miserable

I mean... seriously... I could write that in less than 5 minutes. Most people could. There's nothing technical about it.

That isn't to say that this sort of music doesn't have it's worth... but for ME PERSONALLY, I value technical ability. I've always felt like diving was a decent analogy for it. Anyone can jump off a diving board into the water. Some people can do a flip. Some people can get insanely intricate without belly flopping. SOME people can do all of that and barely make a splash. The more technical your writing gets, then the harder it is to not make a big ass splash.

Sometimes Em flops on a song, or a lyric, but I don't even agree with the fact that he isn't a good song writer. I just don't think he writes the kind of songs y'all like.

When I'm Gone is a good song.
Believe is a good song.
Untouchable is a good song.
Kim. Stan. 'Til I Collapse. Way I Am. Offended. In Your Head. Castle. Arose.

Those are all well written SONGS.

But hey... I like Eyedea, so. I'm not like most of y'all.

[dull boy]

One of my favorite albums...

[~RustyGunZ~]

I like Eyedea too

It’s not about Em not being great at a lot of technical things, it’s his content being so bad that nothing can save it. But yeah I guess you can maybe relate enough to his content to like it with the technical stuff too?

I’m not gonna go find lyrics of his that anyone could write in 5 minutes but there’s plenty of it. His jokes are childish and simple shock humor. His comedy talents are on par with Carlos mencia and the likes. His stories are for dirts and simpletons.

[Destroyer]

On this one he’s technically so sound I could give a fuck about his content

[Amen]

Knuck just arguing just to argue at this point.

[~RustyGunZ~]

Originally Posted by Amen

Knuck just arguing just to argue at this point.

nah I just don't agree

any music is preference thing

I like to enjoy my music, not have to justify how good it is by breaking it down like a science

[dull boy]

I wasn't trying to cherry pick Cole lyrics. Those seemed to be a good representation of what he wrote on that album.

What song do you consider his content to be so bad on that nothing can save it? @Knucklehead

I'm curious.

[Amen]

Originally Posted by Knucklehead

any music is preference thing

I said this 5 pages ago.

Why are you still carrying on about it then? As if you are trying to justify why you dislike him and convince Dull Boy why he should also dislike him?

[~RustyGunZ~]

Originally Posted by dull boy

I wasn't trying to cherry pick Cole lyrics. Those seemed to be a good representation of what he wrote on that album.

What song do you consider his content to be so bad on that nothing can save it? @Knucklehead

I'm curious.

I can't find a good source for kamikaze other than spotify and don't have premium so can't pin point the track names other than fall and lucky you, but there's two off it that remind me of eminem show em and the content is about relationships

I don't find any of his songs about relationships listenable because he's a scumbag and child

Don't like when he gets political because he doesn't do so intelligently and makes it a sideshow

Don't find his stuff about the come up good because I never lived in a trailer park

And otherwise his flex tracks are hit and miss because he has such a bad style of humor to me. His comedy is like deleted scenes from the first 5 seasons of southpark. It's just shock value, low hanging fruit LETS BE OFFENSIVE garbage

Infinity and SSLP/MMLP are good and I like at least 70% of the music on them. Everything since is so inconsistent and frequently cringey that I can't even name a specific song for you because it's the entire flow of the album. Eminem show is what made me not like him. Politically it was more nonsense than immortal technique but better written.

this is his best effort in over a decade by far, it's just not a good all around album. lucky you is the best joint, rest is either listenable a few times for the hype or fluff.

[boof]

it is not easy to come up with a flow that dope for a mainstream song and also rhyme those words so well. for real. i'm a rhyme scheme nerd through and through. those are dope rhymes to fit into that small of a box. to me that section of cole lyrics are much more impressive than em forcing 5 syllable rhymes in literally wherever he wants to while not saying anything content wise.

[dull boy]

Originally Posted by boof

it is not easy to come up with a flow that dope for a mainstream song and also rhyme those words so well. for real. i'm a rhyme scheme nerd through and through. those are dope rhymes to fit into that small of a box. to me that section of cole lyrics are much more impressive than em forcing 5 syllable rhymes in literally wherever he wants to while not saying anything content wise.

Stop trolling.

[dull boy]

Originally Posted by Knucklehead

I can't find a good source for kamikaze other than spotify and don't have premium so can't pin point the track names other than fall and lucky you, but there's two off it that remind me of eminem show em and the content is about relationships

I don't find any of his songs about relationships listenable because he's a scumbag and child

Don't like when he gets political because he doesn't do so intelligently and makes it a sideshow

Don't find his stuff about the come up good because I never lived in a trailer park

And otherwise his flex tracks are hit and miss because he has such a bad style of humor to me. His comedy is like deleted scenes from the first 5 seasons of southpark. It's just shock value, low hanging fruit LETS BE OFFENSIVE garbage

Infinity and SSLP/MMLP are good and I like at least 70% of the music on them. Everything since is so inconsistent and frequently cringey that I can't even name a specific song for you because it's the entire flow of the album. Eminem show is what made me not like him. Politically it was more nonsense than immortal technique but better written.

this is his best effort in over a decade by far, it's just not a good all around album. lucky you is the best joint, rest is either listenable a few times for the hype or fluff.

Fair enough.

[boof]

im not trolling. do you make music? textcees get lost in translation

[Lenox]

He’s so fucking corny. Why do people like him honestly . Funny how you made fun of pancake brah for liking jus Allah yet Eminem ur fav rapper. Ok lol

[Hush]

Originally Posted by boof

im not trolling. do you make music? textcees get lost in translation

Lol do u make music ?
Does anyone listen ?
If a tree falls in the woods does it make a sound ?

[boof]

lol wanna put it to the test?