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Originally Posted by uh-oh

50 of the 60 killed were hamas. source? hamas.

same source says 0 of them were armed. so... still worthy of being murdered from 600 yards away?

u think most of the 2,000 shot were hamas as well?

u never responded to me mentioning that palestinians have been protesting the landgrab since before hamas. you make it seem like you think this is only because of them

like water, food, electricity, jobs, losing their land, forced to not come back, isn't enough to protest?

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Originally Posted by boof

same source says 0 of them were armed. so... still worthy of being murdered from 600 yards away?

u think most of the 2,000 shot were hamas as well?

u never responded to me mentioning that palestinians have been protesting the landgrab since before hamas. you make it seem like you think this is only because of them

like water, food, electricity, jobs, losing their land, forced to not come back, isn't enough to protest?

you are confusing protesting with the action of attempting to breach a defensive barrier. you continue to paint them as harmless victims. you refuse to look at the issue from the other side. you say yourself hamas is a terrorist organization earlier in the thread, this entire event (the violence, not the normal protesting) was sponsored and ordered by hamas to breach the defensive fence and take back "their homes". how many protestors were killed today? 0. why? maybe because kites with molotov cocktails ain't being flown in, maybe because hamas wasn't employing children to roll tires up to the fence and burn them as a smokescreen so others can cut their way through? explain to me how that is an unarmed protest?

Originally Posted by boof

because defending yourself with unarmed protest isn't wrong?

i would agree, if it was an unarmed protest.

Originally Posted by Knucklehead

Uh oh, would it be justified for the national guard to kill antifa members?

goofy question. i could make up a scenario where it would be justified. but just antifa rioting because milo fagadopolis is in town? of course not. but i wouldn't fault a shop owner protecting his establishment.

also booth, remember that this entire thread is predicated on the fact that i don't understand the rights viewpoint on this matter, because of what you think im ignoring. you are ignoring that the thread is based off that. i don't agree with israels actions in the past at all, i don't even agree with israel as a nation. but it is. the shit happened. palestinians sold or were displaced. 60 years ago. in those 60 years you could fill tons of books on what has happened since from both sides. its a complicated issue, so to see you just spewing what the media is force feeding the public is disheartening. you don't want to see the other sides point of view. fair?

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Originally Posted by uh-oh

you are confusing protesting with the action of attempting to breach a defensive barrier. you continue to paint them as harmless victims. you refuse to look at the issue from the other side. you say yourself hamas is a terrorist organization earlier in the thread, this entire event (the violence, not the normal protesting) was sponsored and ordered by hamas to breach the defensive fence and take back "their homes". how many protestors were killed today? 0. why? maybe because kites with molotov cocktails ain't being flown in, maybe because hamas wasn't employing children to roll tires up to the fence and burn them as a smokescreen so others can cut their way through? explain to me how that is an unarmed protest?


i would agree, if it was an unarmed protest.



goofy question. i could make up a scenario where it would be justified. but just antifa rioting because milo fagadopolis is in town? of course not. but i wouldn't fault a shop owner protecting his establishment.

also booth, remember that this entire thread is predicated on the fact that i don't understand the rights viewpoint on this matter, because of what you think im ignoring. you are ignoring that the thread is based off that. i don't agree with israels actions in the past at all, i don't even agree with israel as a nation. but it is. the shit happened. palestinians sold or were displaced. 60 years ago. in those 60 years you could fill tons of books on what has happened since from both sides. its a complicated issue, so to see you just spewing what the media is force feeding the public is disheartening. you don't want to see the other sides point of view. fair?

i don't understand. the person YOU cited to convince me that they are mostly terrorists also specifically said that nobody was armed. you can't pick and choose what you believe from the source you're using against me?

can you show me videos of what you're describing? i'm pretty sure there were zero israeli injuries right? how did 40,000 armed people with molotov kites and burning tires and pipe bombs and grenades and whatever else you're saying not hurt 1 israeli? how is this even a clash? the "violence" is only being committed by one side bro

i'd suggest from here on out we just post video footage to back up our sides because everything else seems ineffective at this point