METH PRESENTS: NETCEES NEWBIE TOURNAMENT VII

[Sharp]

Originally Posted by theMuzzl3

good question.

double gone

[theMuzzl3]

Originally Posted by Sharp Nine

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jazz is a wide variety of things. My favorite to play and hear is 'free jazz'.

[Certain]

Originally Posted by theMuzzl3

jazz is a wide variety of things. My favorite to play and hear is 'free jazz'.

I prefer expensive fusion.

[Sharp]

Originally Posted by theMuzzl3

jazz is a wide variety of things. My favorite to play and hear is 'free jazz'.

tell me more of this 'free jazz'

Originally Posted by Certain

I prefer expensive fusion.

fucking el oh el

[theMuzzl3]

Originally Posted by Sharp Nine

tell me more of this 'free jazz'



fucking el oh el

free jazz is where basically all of the musicians communicate through their instruments, and talk to each other... like a language. Most of them already know what each other are going to play through repetition, but if someone throws something unexpected out... the other musicians respond and build off of that. Of course, it sucks if one or two of the musicians do not know how to jam. I guess you could call it "jam band" style jazz. I did a bit of that back in Vegas with the oldschool blues cats. They called it open jam night.

[theMuzzl3]

I liked it because it wasn't prewritten material, and anything could happen. I played a circuit bent industrial strength megaphone with the dudes (basically the same megaphone as the police, but with 3 vocal effects and a pitch know, and a clean blend vs effected knob).

[Allen Knight]

why is every post from u, long as fuck.

[Ghost1]

Its the trying

Theres so much of it

[theMuzzl3]

Originally Posted by A.Knightmare

why is every post from u, long as fuck.

I guess I type fast.

I did make a living selling video game items for 10 years, so I have experience!

Originally Posted by Bags

Its the trying

Theres so much of it

whatevs -- think of me whatever u want. IDC.

[Ghost1]

U were subtle at first. U got impatient and blew it tho. Too much too soon.

[theMuzzl3]

thanx 4 signin me up

[Sharp]

Originally Posted by theMuzzl3

free jazz is where basically all of the musicians communicate through their instruments, and talk to each other... like a language. Most of them already know what each other are going to play through repetition, but if someone throws something unexpected out... the other musicians respond and build off of that.

So how is that different from other forms of jazz

[Certain]

[theMuzzl3]

Originally Posted by Sharp Nine

So how is that different from other forms of jazz

A lot of jazz is pre-written, meaning the songs have been written and performed as per the way they were lain out.

Free form jazz is similar, in the manner that musicians can use the classical bass lines, solo's and over all structure, but its a free for all --- its a jam session where its kind of like call & response. Its funny though, if someone fucks up and hits the wrong key like super loud and does a whole knew riff by mistake, than skilled musicians can go back to the riff they were on and mesh them together, as if it was on purpose.

[Certain]

That seems lazy.

[theMuzzl3]

Originally Posted by Certain

That seems lazy.

Its language. Kind of like two MC's with two mics and each one spits one line & the other answers (not necessarily battle).

Its just a jam. I know several jazz/blues musicians from Vegas, and the jazz ones (jazz music is hard, just learning jazz chord charts is a fat headache) -- they all enjoyed to have freedom to play with each other without and "fixed" form of structure that would limit their sound. I guess playing the same songs over and over gets boring... but they did that too (gotta get paid).

[theMuzzl3]

*back to topic*

has anyone decided what the 'max lines' etc rules will be?

I've already started writing some stuff, and I want it to be decent... but if its 32 lines and I have 10, I'll be like OH SHIT!!!

[Certain]

Originally Posted by theMuzzl3

Its language. Kind of like two MC's with two mics and each one spits one line & the other answers (not necessarily battle).

Its just a jam. I know several jazz/blues musicians from Vegas, and the jazz ones (jazz music is hard, just learning jazz chord charts is a fat headache) -- they all enjoyed to have freedom to play with each other without and "fixed" form of structure that would limit their sound. I guess playing the same songs over and over gets boring... but they did that too (gotta get paid).

Explain this "jazz/blues" thing you mentioned.

[Meth]

Originally Posted by theMuzzl3

*back to topic*

has anyone decided what the 'max lines' etc rules will be?

I've already started writing some stuff, and I want it to be decent... but if its 32 lines and I have 10, I'll be like OH SHIT!!!

The rules will be laid out once we get the 16th competitor and the tournament begins

[theMuzzl3]

Originally Posted by Certain

Explain this "jazz/blues" thing you mentioned.

I kinda feel like you're just fuckin with me.

The jazz and blues crowd out in Vegas all hung together. I don't know if the genres are really connected. Well jazz can be almost anything IMO. Blues is clearly defined by very basic cord structures (not to say blues sucks, its bad ass IMO, but its all 145, 135, 153, etc.).

In a lot of the open mic jams we had at the Bunkhouse and other venues in Vegas, a lot of the blues and jazz musicians were up at the same time, so open jamming could go from one basic cord structure to very complex... it all depends... rock was a big influence in all those jams too. There was really no meshing hip hop with those guys, that I witnessed. I tried to mesh the younger crowd with the old timers, and it didn't really work. Funny thing is, a lot of the old timers were more open minded than the young kids.