Is 'reality' as we know it a dream?

[veritas]

Originally Posted by namix

Awesome!

I envision that question toward the apex of all NLP questions.... a subject i know little about outside of the end-goal and the initial starting point, but it's a starting point that actually makes it one of the most appropriately-named subject matters ever lol.

alas, since you are an NLP, i probably shouldn't have differentiated between end goal and starting point lol


I speculate you know my personal answer to the above, but if not, remember the future where differentiation between the two didn't matter and matter didn't differentiate ;)

I radically propose that dreams prove the "super-realities" existence. Existence without time or space constraints.

[NYCSPITZ]

namix and veritas be intriguing the shit out a nigga...

[namix]

Originally Posted by The Mind Assassin

I radically propose that dreams prove the "super-realities" existence. Existence without time or space constraints.

100%

while i started from the "science" angle re: brainwaves approaching sleep and how their characterized with a timeless state - i like how you jumped right into the deep-end lol.

starting from two points on each side of the line expedites the time it takes to meet in the middle where one finds there was a single point -- and a single point had no time the whole time.

[veritas]

What a terrible existence this would be if we were only able to imagine this super reality whilst we slept and there not actually be one eh?

Originally Posted by The Mind Assassin

and why?

You only live for the present moment in dreams. In the 'real' world it seems that you are always living for the future, call it human nature I guess.

[namix]

Originally Posted by King Masa II

You only live for the present moment in dreams. In the 'real' world it seems that you are always living for the future, call it human nature I guess.

word up, straight truth bro. it all comes back to our ability to perceive our existence beyond the constraints of time....

Here is potentially a radical statement to piggy-back V's radical statement (both of which I sincerely view as logical, just not commonly accepted until the dots are connected):

WE THINK TIME MAKES UP REALITY, BUT IN REALITY WE MAKE UP TIME.


...in fact, according to 3 out of 4 of our brainwaves*, TIME DOES NOT EXIST. (*edit note: 5 brainwaves including the random "gamma" burst, always forget that one lol)

Moreover, we only experience Time in our waken/alert state, brainwaves primarily Beta... a state which is also characterized by general timidness and fear... How poetic that almost all of our "fear" at some juncture can relate to "time" itself, none more prominent than our own countdown clock to death.

In dreams THERE IS NO TIME.... and to your exact point Masa, no worry for the future....

Dreams are just as real as any other experience, but many disregard it, because "in time" we're trained to give more credence to the world "of time"..

That same state of timelessness can be reached while "awake" - we jump across the levels, but the faster pulsing waves trump our experience a lot of the "time"...


It can be reached in deep meditative states -- or even seen in moments of someone just being "in the zone"... even when an athlete starts performing at seemingly superhuman levels, what do they often say? "it was like the game SLOWED DOWN for me"... they are still 'bound' by time in that example, but are not letting it serve as a parameter for decisions --- because it shouldnt be... they just "perform"...


In Summary:
1. We do not perceive Time in 3 out of 4 of our brain wave frequencies
2. The one state we do experience time in is in our waken/fearful state.
3. Close your eyes and slow your mind; slow your mind and see past the veil of time.
4. See past the veil of time, and see the super-reality Veritas mentioned....

It is always available, and always has been... The longer we operate in time, the harder it is to escape it --- until, for many, we approach the point of no return and face our own demise....

When we face the moment of our death... as V also says often, "remember the future"... it brings us to the decision point which helps us look past it... There are many fears and internal demons faced along each individuals way -- so that phrase helps them jump to the 'point in the future' they need to deal with (and empower them to do so) before they get to the ultimate question, but if one remembers the future in entirety, you will remember where the two points on the line of existence meet in the circle of life, and that time was just one of the demons which fueled our ego and desire for self-perseverance.




Remove the veil of time and see the super-reality which is right before (and after) our eyes. ;)

Originally Posted by namix

How poetic that almost all of our "fear" at some juncture can relate to "time" itself, none more prominent than our own countdown clock to death.

I chuckled at the reality of this. Very good post Namix.