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Masaii 12-10-2013 08:43 AM

Is 'reality' as we know it a dream?
 
Ill start this by quoting Zhuangzi;
"Once Zhuangzi dreamt he was a butterfly, a butterfly flitting and fluttering around, happy with himself and doing as he pleased. He didn't know he was Zhuangzi. Suddenly he woke up and there he was, solid and unmistakable Zhuangzi. But he didn't know if he was Zhuangzi who had dreamt he was a butterfly, or a butterfly dreaming he was Zhuangzi."

My question is, if this life as we know it is perception of our own reality and our reality is simply our central nervous system sending electrical signals throughout our body, how do we that any of this is real? Like Zhuangzi, I could be living my life as a dream, not really existing, just being in-between an alternate reality. Just because I can experience physical pain does not necessarily make me 'real'.

I am dumbfounded. I know there is no right or wrong answer here but please share your thoughts as this will torment my mind until I can make any kind of sense of it, which I don't think is entirely possible...

Wise Wiggles 12-10-2013 08:46 AM

Roll roll roll your boat bro

Masaii 12-10-2013 08:46 AM

I asked the same question on a different website

http://forums.philosophyforums.com/t...eam-64278.html

it will be interesting to compare answers

i have mind fucked myself

Dr Expert 12-10-2013 09:16 AM

Paging Dr. Rawn. Paging Dr. Namix. Dr. Namix we’re going to need a metaphysical discussion on the nature of duality and the transcendence of space-time through spiritual evolution STAT. Dr. Rawn were going to need you to come out of hiding ASAP to provide a second opinion and extensive wikipedia research.

(I think I am an expert therefore I am an expert).

Ryan 12 12-10-2013 09:17 AM

i wish this was a dream so i could kill everyone and live like an animal

Ryan 12 12-10-2013 09:19 AM

nah but

dreams are a subset of reality, specifically brain functions & neuron activity. assuming this is a dream opens doors to a whole lot of shit, not specifically good either

and not to mention if this is a dream, everything is an illusion including all the pussies you've fucked

so basically, you're a virgin



step ya virtual game up, br0

veritas 12-10-2013 09:21 AM

next watch a movie "a waking life". Get back to me.

dead man 12-10-2013 09:35 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain_in_a_vat

Witty 12-10-2013 09:35 AM

My problem with things like this is it is all just pure speculation, which is ok, but when people start believing things like this as factual it becomes a problem.

The same issue I have with religion, really.

dead man 12-10-2013 09:36 AM

WE R NOT HERE WITTY STOP

U R MY DREAM FRIEND

Witty 12-10-2013 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dead man (Post 225142)
WE R NOT HERE WITTY STOP

U R MY DREAM FRIEND

I am honoured, Sir.

Wise Wiggles 12-10-2013 09:41 AM

YOU ARE MY ONE GAY FRIEND WITTY

namix 12-10-2013 09:42 AM

the only difference is your brain frequency, which allows you to perceive time in a waken state and not in a dream state as you move through alpha into delta.

and because of our perception of time, our perception of 'manifestation' is slower.

That's why what ever we think in a dream happens instantaneously, but we believe we do not have the same influence in our waken state due to the latency between imagination and reality.

woof.

Witty 12-10-2013 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wise Ways (Post 225149)
YOU ARE MY ONE GAY FRIEND WITTY

I am honoured, Sir.

Ryan 12 12-10-2013 09:43 AM

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL



good grief

PancakeBrah 12-10-2013 09:46 AM

Had a dream a couple nights ago wherein a I could do a back flip. Ergo, dreams are not reality.

Nice try fagboys

Witty 12-10-2013 09:47 AM

I can backflip on a trampoline and land on my feet.

True Story.

I can't do it on solid ground though, I'm not Asian.

Ryan 12 12-10-2013 09:48 AM

kill yourself, seriously. then you'll know for sure if you're dreaming or not

Masaii 12-10-2013 09:53 AM

Okay then, ill add in Astral projection to the mix.

What if when one masters this, they are traveling to the 'true' world where the soul exists. I have astral projected once momentarily before I returned. It was an amazing experience.

@Veritas didn't you say I came to you in a dream once? (no rawnmo)

Just C 12-10-2013 09:54 AM

We don't know. We just live. All the proof points to it being real. We feel it, we hear it, we smell it, we see it. What proof it isn't real is strong enough to counter the above proof?

You waste your time trying to figure this out you'll drive yourself nuts. Take it for what it is, go with it and enjoy the ride I say.


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