T.I one of the GOATS - Page 2

Frank Metts · 10-31-2013, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Split Eight

Luda is less lyrical, is less creative and more openly commercial, yet has no GOAT tier albums. Your anecdotes are useless and baseless

I would say back for the first time ( incognegro 2.0 ), release therapy and theater of the mind are all front to back bangers .. And most of his albums have spent time at #1 on the billboard charts. The last point just means he is more popular and commercial but stayed relevant as well.

Luda is way better on features as well. T.I always sounds angry or depressed where Luda is upbeat and actually funny.

Saying Luda is less lyrical makes me think you've never listened to a whole Luda album. Listen to war with god or one of my personal favorite tracks ever that he could never get the clearances for but shows some of that creativity and lyrical ability is called he-man off the prerelease therapy mixtape.

Certain · 10-31-2013, 07:26 PM

Ludacris is a great guest rapper, on the level of Busta Rhymes in that department. But he's all charisma and punchlines. T.I. raps about a much, much wider array of topics. That versatility puts him above Ludacris.

Frank Metts · 10-31-2013, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Certain

Ludacris is a great guest rapper, on the level of Busta Rhymes in that department. But he's all charisma and punchlines. T.I. raps about a much, much wider array of topics. That versatility puts him above Ludacris.

No he's not ... How can you be all charisma, punchlines and make a song like runaway love??? ... The only difference is, Luda doesn't rap about selling drugs or hustling like TI .. Because that's not who he is... He never claimed to be that type of artist and he's not...

PancakeBrah · 10-31-2013, 07:37 PM

Word, Ludacris is better than T.I.

No offense T.I GOAT arguers, don't get butthurt or anything TI is still pretty good.

Certain · 10-31-2013, 07:44 PM

I can't think of a single Ludacris song with the topical depth of "Slide Show" or "Live in the Sky" or "Live Your Life" or "Dead and Gone" OTHER THAN "Runaway Love." That was a pleasant exception. Every song on his first three albums was "about money, hos and rims again."

I really like Ludacris, but he's one note.

PancakeBrah · 10-31-2013, 07:46 PM

veritas · 10-31-2013, 07:58 PM

T.i. aint even top 5 goat of the south tbh.

Fig · 10-31-2013, 08:00 PM

Pimpin all over the world was my first favorite rap song

Fig · 10-31-2013, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by The Mind Assassin

T.i. aint even top 5 goat of the south tbh.

Maybe if you're separating groups up like UGK, Outkast and 3 6

veritas · 10-31-2013, 08:03 PM

I was...plus mystikal eightball mjg no limit cash money etc.

Fig · 10-31-2013, 08:07 PM

I forgot about mystikal lol

I only know him for one song tbh

Mr. J · 11-01-2013, 01:17 AM

Luda also wrote his verse for "Stomp" after hearing T.I. verse
same thing happened to Bis on LL's 4,3,2,1 track...
Urban Legend was dope if yall forgot Trap Muzik is classic
King is dope Paper Trail is well rounded No Mercy was eh
I'm Serious deserves love

Certain · 11-01-2013, 01:25 AM

The Mount Rushmore of Southern rappers is easy: Andre 3000, Scarface, Bun B and Big Boi, who locked up his spot with his two solo albums. I think T.I. and Ludacris are in the discussion for that last spot in the top five, along with Killer Mike, Lil Wayne, Devin the Dude and Cee-Lo. I'm not counting Virginia as Southern, or Pusha T would be in there.

Mr. J · 11-01-2013, 02:02 AM

Jeezy and Pimp C are the promethizine and sprite chrisening your Rushmore

10-31-2013, 07:26 PM	#22
Certain Mad fucking dangerous. Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 12,066 Battle Record: 40-19 Champed - AOWL Season 3 - Art of Writing League (2x) Rep Power: 85899406	Ludacris is a great guest rapper, on the level of Busta Rhymes in that department. But he's all charisma and punchlines. T.I. raps about a much, much wider array of topics. That versatility puts him above Ludacris. __________________ I'm just swinging swords strictly based on keyboards, unbalanced like elephants and ants on seesaws.

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PancakeBrah SOBER Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 12,480 Battle Record: 2-5 Champed - AOWL Season 2 Rep Power: 85899407	Word, Ludacris is better than T.I. No offense T.I GOAT arguers, don't get butthurt or anything TI is still pretty good. __________________ Netcees 2025 Revivalist Movement Founder

10-31-2013, 07:44 PM	#25
Certain Mad fucking dangerous. Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 12,066 Battle Record: 40-19 Champed - AOWL Season 3 - Art of Writing League (2x) Rep Power: 85899406	I can't think of a single Ludacris song with the topical depth of "Slide Show" or "Live in the Sky" or "Live Your Life" or "Dead and Gone" OTHER THAN "Runaway Love." That was a pleasant exception. Every song on his first three albums was "about money, hos and rims again." I really like Ludacris, but he's one note. __________________ I'm just swinging swords strictly based on keyboards, unbalanced like elephants and ants on seesaws.

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Fig Om Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 6,461 Battle Record: 8-16 Rep Power: 84181562	Pimpin all over the world was my first favorite rap song __________________ BIRDHORSE 8-15

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Fig Om Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 6,461 Battle Record: 8-16 Rep Power: 84181562	I forgot about mystikal lol I only know him for one song tbh __________________ BIRDHORSE 8-15

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Mr. J The Clown Prince Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 5,046 Battle Record: 35-45 Champed - Art of Writing League Rep Power: 59349682	Luda also wrote his verse for "Stomp" after hearing T.I. verse same thing happened to Bis on LL's 4,3,2,1 track... Urban Legend was dope if yall forgot Trap Muzik is classic King is dope Paper Trail is well rounded No Mercy was eh I'm Serious deserves love __________________ .....laugh....and the world laughs with you

11-01-2013, 01:25 AM	#33
Certain Mad fucking dangerous. Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 12,066 Battle Record: 40-19 Champed - AOWL Season 3 - Art of Writing League (2x) Rep Power: 85899406	The Mount Rushmore of Southern rappers is easy: Andre 3000, Scarface, Bun B and Big Boi, who locked up his spot with his two solo albums. I think T.I. and Ludacris are in the discussion for that last spot in the top five, along with Killer Mike, Lil Wayne, Devin the Dude and Cee-Lo. I'm not counting Virginia as Southern, or Pusha T would be in there. __________________ I'm just swinging swords strictly based on keyboards, unbalanced like elephants and ants on seesaws. Last edited by Certain; 11-01-2013 at 02:06 AM.

11-01-2013, 02:02 AM	#34
Mr. J The Clown Prince Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 5,046 Battle Record: 35-45 Champed - Art of Writing League Rep Power: 59349682	Jeezy and Pimp C are the promethizine and sprite chrisening your Rushmore __________________ .....laugh....and the world laughs with you