Fuck The US Government

[SpookyDeep]

Obama ain't done shit for us (Black people), nigga ain't help me get an education or a job
I did that shit...Ion need that nigga to do shit for me

As far as who is responsible for the shutdown...both sides are

The Republicans pulled a last second move, but it's obvious the House was elected as it was to stop the healthcare act...most Americans ain't informed about the benefits or cons. There's a trade off between deductibles and premiums. Company's ARE cutting hours & healthy young people have an incentive not to enroll as the penalty is only $100 vs paying thousands for shit they don't need.

[DLB]

you're the dumbass who probably voted on Obama cause of his race

oh wait.... you're just like a bunch of other Americans

[Destroyer]

current GOP is swine
if u can't see that, ur an idiot

excuse me, a BIGGER idiot than I thought

[SpookyDeep]

I don't vote, never have motherfucka

[Destroyer]

that means you have no right to complain dumbass
do your civic duty

[Neighbor]

DLB the new Clayton Bigsby

[Fart]

inb4 Obama in the crosshairs avy

[PancakeBrah]

Is it the Fall of Rome? Probably. But it has nothing to do with politics or who's President or any policies. Well, it does have to do with policies, but only tangentially. They only reflect the general mind of the acceptable practices allowed by the people. Our fall will be a societal one, blamed on something more simplistic. I am a Patriot, and not wont to doom and gloom, but our trend is downwards. Blaming the Government or the process electing the blamable Government is a lapse of logic. It's the minute shifts in attitude and responsibility accumulating over decades and decades that lead to a fall. It's nothing conspiratorial or sexy. It's the dull erosion of time in success and the subsequent lackadaisical proceedings. Nothing stays the same. We were once on a come up, one that we achieved. And now we are reaping the assumed continued superiority while other entities grow through their come up using the successes we engendered. It's simple science.

[uh-oh]

this form of government works if the slate is wiped clean and we start from scratch, from the city level to state to federal

there should be no career politicians

the whole shit is fucked. its a half ass dictatorship, its not even as solid as rome. rome was upfront about it. the rich dudes could buy a spot on the senate, 2 guys would have supreme control so they could combat eachother and fight tyranny, the competitiveness between consuls would actually lead to them trying to do great things because the people would like that dude more than the other guy and he would have a better chance at holding a high office when his consulship was up and could be re elected etc

it was basically america of today with two presidents, and a populace that wasnt pussies and the government didnt need approval by the people to go to war

soldiers weren't mistreated because they were lifelong soldiers. not some halfass 6-12 weeks training and 2-4 years of service bullshit. then they are expected to come back to society? yea fucking right. the romans knew better. they'd give there veterans lands away from the populace so they could live out there years in peace. not try and re integrate them into a society they aint built for anymore

this added nothing. i just like rome and think they did it right

i think america is rome today tho, more literally than not. all the symbolism is there, but i won't go down that road cuz conspiracyomgzzzzz.

but word i think my main point is the problem is the people appointed to represent the people, don't. they represent themselves and major corporations, so while retarded shit like gay marriage and other shit will get done, the real problems will never gget dealt with because those people are so far removed from the real problems. and the real people just get inundated with this bullshit on the news and media about gay rights and breast cancer and not shit that actually matters to the vast majority

[SpookyDeep]

You gotta admit how stupid Americans are. I mean we just are. Black people, white people, brown people, etc. Americans don't read.

[REAL LIFE]

STOP LYING.

How does a government just shut down all 'non essential' departments?

How does this happen in a supposed super-power?

Thats some backwards ass shit

[Anjahl]

lol...it's happened like 20 times already, what are you talking about?
It's not exactly an uncommon thing.

As far as the Fall Rome thing...America is literally too big to fail. There is FFFAAARRR too much dependence on America in the global economy for that to happen. The fall of Rome landed Western society smack dab into the middle ages. America falling eradicates England's defense policies, puts the EU in direct competition with Russia for economic dominance, and absolutely destroys any idea of Chinese growth when they lose their Major supplier of food, fresh water and money, and cut's out a HUGE portion of the oil supply from the world market. "Rome" won't fall...this time, the world won't let it.

And that's not even taking into account the effect that our Navy has in keeping the world..."honest" with each other. It might off balance things heavily in our favor; but every one else at least is on a relatively level playing field.

Believe it or not, for the time being, one world power is better than 2 or 3 vying with each other for supremacy.

I asked a question.

LOL ITS HAPPENED SO MANY TIMES ALREADY BRO, isnt an answer.
@uh-oh if the country is out of money why dont they sell the resources you said you guys have and pay the employees of the 'non-essential' government departments?

[Anjahl]

Originally Posted by Destroyer

current GOP is swine
if u can't see that, ur an idiot

excuse me, a BIGGER idiot than I thought

Also, this.

I ranted on facebook for a second yesterday:

I spent about 20 minutes listening to Limbaugh bitch about "Obamacare", and about how the dems are screwing everything, and how the online registration isn't running smoothly at all. It's the democrats fault he said; the Republicans didn't want it.

We know you didn't want it, but lemme break this down Rush; it ain't running smooth BECAUSE you don't want it, not the other way around. It is specifically because the republican party is refusing to let it run smoothly that it's all F(*&ed up. Let's be real; it's not the best interest of the American people that drives you, it's your own self-interest. It's the burning inside of you at the Democrats "winning" that is putting up the roadblocks in the gov.

It should never of been about republicans or democrats winning; it should ALWAYS be about the people winning. The affordable care act has passed congressional muster. That means that the American PEOPLE, at least those that vote, want it. All the talk about republicans need to oppose the dems is straight BULLSHIT. That opposition takes place before the bill is passed; that's what system of checks and balances is for. To ensure that anything coming from the house and senate is hammered out and polished so that it best serves the American people. As soon as the bill is passed, the time for opposition is gone. At that point, it is the responsibility of ALL parties involved to sit down, and work TOGETHER to make sure everything runs smoothly. Any lack of support at that point, and opposition at that point, isn't against the democrats; it's against US. Anything else reeks of bitterness on your part and the part of your entire party. Especially since you wanted it in the 90’s, when the healthcare reform that the act is based on was introduced by the republicans. If it’s such a shitty plan, then why propose it in the first place? If it’s such a bad idea, then why are you so afraid to let it go into effect?

The answer is simple…republicans aren’t afraid of it failing. AS I said before, this entire government is serving it’s own self interest…this act failing would work WONDERS for the republican party. No…it’s not the failure of the act that the republican party is trying to prevent, it’s the success of it. Because if this act succeeds, the democrats “win” again.

And ALL of this is moot anyway. It’s a blinder…popping smoke on the frontlines. The fact of the matter is, and this is what pisses me off the most, it costs 3 grand for an angioplasty in Germany…15 grand in the U.S. 1100 dollars for an MRI that runs you 3 bills in bloody Spain. A 30 dollar angiogram in Canada costs you NEARLY A GRAND in the U.S. How about we focus on firing “charge masters” in every hospital in the U.S., rather then allowing hospitals have someone on payroll commit blatant fraud by itemizing, and subsequently marking up, every single item and procedure in the hospital? How about we not allow the Medical industry to remain a for profit one; how about we pass legislation that DOESN’T ALLOW YOUR POLITCAL PARTIES to be bribed to the tune almost 6 billion dollars a year by said industry.

How about that?

How about we focus less on WHO pays the exorbitant medical bills in this country, and focus more on WHY those bills are so exorbitantly priced in the first damn place. Because I for one would be able to pay my own damn bills if it didn’t cost me 90 fucking dollars for a band-aid and a lollipop.

And THAT Mr. Limbaugh, is being "real" about the situation.

Also, hate monger, it's not Obama's responsibility to do things for black people. That attitude only perpetuates racism in America; which is especially dangerous in a country where classism is the real issue. It's his responsibility to shift the balance for EVERYBODY; to even the field so that you can do for your damn self as readily as anybody else can. THAT is equality.

Basically...stop looking for a fucking hand out kid.

[Anjahl]

Originally Posted by Masaii

I asked a question.

LOL ITS HAPPENED SO MANY TIMES ALREADY BRO, isnt an answer.
@uh-oh if the country is out of money why dont they sell the resources you said you guys have and pay the employees of the 'non-essential' government departments?

It was a rhetorical fucking question and you know it. If you're really interested in the mechanics of shutting down, google it. If what you mean to ask is "why" or what, than don't ask "how".

Im not going to rephrase my question for a faggot such as yourself.

I will wait till the GAWD graces this thread with his presence and gives me his opinion.

[Anjahl]

Originally Posted by Masaii

Im not going to rephrase my question for a faggot such as yourself.

I will wait till the GAWD graces this thread with his presence and gives me his opinion.

Yeah...you have the IQ of a down syndrome patient.
"faggot such as" myself?
OOOOoohhh so hostile. You're a fucking clown kid. For real.
Don't be a bitch kitty.

But word. Go ahead and wait. Have fun with that.[/color]

[uh-oh]

Originally Posted by Masaii

I asked a question.

LOL ITS HAPPENED SO MANY TIMES ALREADY BRO, isnt an answer.
@uh-oh if the country is out of money why dont they sell the resources you said you guys have and pay the employees of the 'non-essential' government departments?

they don't pay the non essential employees because they are non essential. they don't sell their resources because they are in the business of acquiring resources.

if i collect records, i collect records. if i hit hard times i don't sell my records. i just don't buy video games and drugs until my moneys right

economics YO

plus it helps when you can magically make money, and on top of that you have the military power of a fucking champion

our armies are ridiculous. and the armies we can field are ridiculous.

if you really think about it. if shit got real basically 2/3 of all the posters here would be called off and in a few months be a cog in the greatest war machine this world has ever seen.

[uh-oh]

Originally Posted by Masaii

How does a government just shut down all 'non essential' departments?

How does this happen in a supposed super-power?

Thats some backwards ass shit

its not backwards at all

rome would cut FOOD in the pursuit of GREATNESS

they only fell because their was no media and internet to keep the far flung parts connected. they had sailing ships horses and carrier pigeons lmao