Shutter Island

[Just C]

Was Teddy a U.S Marshall or was he Andrew Leaddis the pyromaniac and subject of an experiment to implant false memories?

[Nigma]

subject of experiment, rewatch the movie and pay attention to which flashbacks involved fire and which involved water. deff rewatch value to that movie

[Just C]

tldr warning

So you think he was Laeddis?

a character he made up to shift blame from himself for the death of his wife by arson, making him an inmate of 2 years from the beginning?

For these 2 years he has stuck by the Laeddis character as his target of blame, refusing to acknowledge his responsibility in his wifes death.

This would provide the (Nazi) doctor's to perform their experiment of "mind control" and to get him to except his own role in his wifes death (a 2 birds with 1 stone plan)

The planned end result:

He finally comes to terms that leaddiss is a fictional character he made up. and with the fact that he killed his wife. Though in a entirely different setting and execution. (she died in a lake/water) replacing (she died in an arson attack/fire) and to add weight to the success of the experiment and it's strength they threw 3 kids into the mix to make him accept he was a father, when he was in fact not.

There's 1 thing I don't get though that sticks out like a sore thumb supporting that he was sane and a U.S Marshall.

After they come in from the thunderstorm. Teddy walks in on the meeting between the heads of the asylum discussing what to do with the inmates during the storm. Teddy just happens to walk in, in time and is quick enough to cotton on to them adding up the amount of patients totalling 66 (who is 67 note) now that to me is an action of an astute detective who is fully in tune with his surroundings (like any good detective) not a delusional pyromaniac patient. He was there to expose them, and they couldn't let that happen.

did not see, previews reminded me to much of island of dr monreau
heard it was good tho

[Just C]

Originally Posted by Rawn M.D.

did not see, previews reminded me to much of island of dr monreau
heard it was good tho

I've heard this comparrison a few times though I've never seen dr monreau. I might check it out . You should definitely watch this though. It's been a while since I've watched a film that made me think, then re watch it

word, yeah ive had it recommended to me
ill prob peep it one of these days
and dr moreau is originally a novel by H.G. Wells fyi, but its also Marlon Brando's last film. I havn't seen the movie in years, but i rmbr it being pretty good. I was young when I saw it though, bc it was in the theaters. (1996)

[Sho Money EMG]

Originally Posted by Just C

Was Teddy a U.S Marshall or was he Andrew Leaddis the pyromaniac and subject of an experiment to implant false memories?

Lol he was once a US Marshall before his wife drowned his children that's when he went nuts and killed his wife..

[Sho Money EMG]

Originally Posted by Just C

tldr warning

So you think he was Laeddis?

a character he made up to shift blame from himself for the death of his wife by arson, making him an inmate of 2 years from the beginning?

For these 2 years he has stuck by the Laeddis character as his target of blame, refusing to acknowledge his responsibility in his wifes death.

This would provide the (Nazi) doctor's to perform their experiment of "mind control" and to get him to except his own role in his wifes death (a 2 birds with 1 stone plan)

The planned end result:

He finally comes to terms that leaddiss is a fictional character he made up. and with the fact that he killed his wife. Though in a entirely different setting and execution. (she died in a lake/water) replacing (she died in an arson attack/fire) and to add weight to the success of the experiment and it's strength they threw 3 kids into the mix to make him accept he was a father, when he was in fact not.

There's 1 thing I don't get though that sticks out like a sore thumb supporting that he was sane and a U.S Marshall.

After they come in from the thunderstorm. Teddy walks in on the meeting between the heads of the asylum discussing what to do with the inmates during the storm. Teddy just happens to walk in, in time and is quick enough to cotton on to them adding up the amount of patients totalling 66 (who is 67 note) now that to me is an action of an astute detective who is fully in tune with his surroundings (like any good detective) not a delusional pyromaniac patient. He was there to expose them, and they couldn't let that happen.

Idk if u also knew this but he says something at the end that's very interesting .... He's sitting with the doctor and makes a comment where it's as if hes crazy again so the doctor looks at the othe doctor and shakes his head meaning hes gone and will have to be obodomozed... Then after that e says .... This place makes me wonder... Would u rather live as a monster or die as a good man... And that comment clearly indicates that he was pretending to be insane at the end becuz he couldn't live with himself knowing what happened

[Just C]

The whole live as a monster or die as a good man could also be interpreted as he doesn't want to live with the guilt of killing his wife (thaT would make him a monster and if insane after all was something he tried to block out/deflect on the laedis character he made up)

Or die as a good man. The U.S marshal character he made up who he has reverted to as he still refuses to accept responsibility.

[Just C]

Originally Posted by Shogun Dinero

Lol he was once a US Marshall before his wife drowned his children that's when he went nuts and killed his wife..

I think if he was a U.S Marshall he wouldn't have gotten away with killing his wife, still carry his badge to go investigate a "missing inmate" / Find Laediss (Again wouldn't be a marshall if he killed her by setting their apartment on fire or kill her in the lake) / expose the Nazi regime

He's either a straight Marshal who never killed anyone and was set up to stop exposing the asylum heads or he was an ex war vet turned inmate,

Unless you mean he was a Marshall prior to killing his wife in the lake, was then sentenced, sent to the asylum, then the role play took place?

If that's the case it wasn't a mind control experiment and the doctor's were trying to make him come to terms with what he did. So many things point in 3 or 4 directions. all have strong cases.

[Joe Metts]

Just C did notget this movie at all.

It was a role play dude. Set up by doctors. It was a fake badge and gun. He was a patient the whole time. An ex marshall that went crazy and convinced himself he was there to investigate/find laeddis

I'm starting to think Dr moreau > this

[Joe Metts]

Shutter island isthe shit.

Word I'm talking half blind @J. Metts
only seen one of the two but just c is making this seem like Way to much work n thought for enjoyment
Leads me to think it's one of those open for interpretation abstract endings that just ends n leaves u like hmm.. Wtf it's over?!?!

Cuz it was directed by Martin Scorsese.

[Boredom]

havent seen in it in a whiiiile, but wasn't it all an elaborate scheme to try and fix his psychosis?

Well that's a plus in my book @Meth

[dull boy]

Are y'all reading way too much into this movie or just confused by a slightly complicated plot? I thought it was pretty straight forward. He was a US Marshall. His wife drowned their children. He went crazy. Made up a fictional account of her dying and an arsonist to place his anger towards. The doctor was trying to make him realize who is was and what had happened. He did, but decided he didn't want to live with the truth, so he pretended to still be oblivious so they would labotomize him.

What's all this he really was an arsonist stuff? The scenes with water and fire? What are you saying is the significance?

I've heard a lot of people say this movie confused them. Poor attention spans/reasoning/sense.

[Joe Metts]

Dull boy hit the nail on the head.

Word he also repiquid my interest lol