ITT: Why God exists

11-01-2013, 03:21 PM

Debate ITT.

veritas · 11-01-2013, 03:28 PM

I will start and end this thread homey.

we are given two choices as to how we exist.

1. god made us
2. we evolved.

I say that God exists because we are here. I say that because evolution is the easiest thing in the world to disprove.

carry on.

namix · 11-01-2013, 04:49 PM

Because life is a fractal relationship between infinite micro and macrocosms; as above, so below; the good and bad we see in others is also in ourselves, and that inter-connectivity is also a reflection of what is more and what is less.

And that inter-connectivity manifests onward and upward, inward and outward, at an exponential rate and fractal shape.

The fractal is all encompassing, "we were created in His image" - and thus, we create in our image. Whether through genetics - or whether through innovative feats of exceeding our own brain processing power and storage.

Neither good nor bad - He is wholly holy and holy wholly; perceiving ourselves finite pieces and not perceiving the infinite puzzle we are apart of.

The yin and the yang of infinite and finite create the infinite decimals between 0 and 1 --- the gray area between "yes" and "no" -- which enables us to experience... it sets the stage for polarity --- and relativity, both scientifically and emotionally.

...it also sets the stage for making us perceive ourselves as 'separate bodies' from the greater body.

Alas, the inter-connectivity of all things across infinite microcosms, macrocosms, and ALL TIME echoes the same truth time and time again -- that we deafen our ears to because of our fear of "death" and the NEED to hang on to our puzzle piece... the need to validate our ego.

We are parts; we are connected; He is whole; We are one. Father, Son, Holy Spirit.

PancakeBrah · 11-01-2013, 05:00 PM

Oh, a God debate.

Groundbreaking, Masaii.

Diode · 11-01-2013, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PancakeBrah

Oh, a God debate.

Groundbreaking, Masaii.

you forgot the picture. it would have been perfect between your first sentence and your last sentence.

opportunity missed.

PancakeBrah · 11-01-2013, 05:10 PM

:(

oats · 11-01-2013, 05:22 PM

Oats da gawd, proof He exists, no need for a why.

/thread

Meth · 11-01-2013, 05:40 PM

Over/under on replies for this?

Over/under on religious butt hurt totals?

Ghost1 · 11-01-2013, 05:45 PM

Each day i contemplate never logging in again.....

Threads like these are very helpful....

Nahhh · 11-01-2013, 05:49 PM

What if god was a midget? I woudn't respect him.

TYSON · 11-01-2013, 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by namix

Because life is a fractal relationship between infinite micro and macrocosms; as above, so below; the good and bad we see in others is also in ourselves, and that inter-connectivity is also a reflection of what is more and what is less.

And that inter-connectivity manifests onward and upward, inward and outward, at an exponential rate and fractal shape.

The fractal is all encompassing, "we were created in His image" - and thus, we create in our image. Whether through genetics - or whether through innovative feats of exceeding our own brain processing power and storage.

Neither good nor bad - He is wholly holy and holy wholly; perceiving ourselves finite pieces and not perceiving the infinite puzzle we are apart of.

The yin and the yang of infinite and finite create the infinite decimals between 0 and 1 --- the gray area between "yes" and "no" -- which enables us to experience... it sets the stage for polarity --- and relativity, both scientifically and emotionally.

...it also sets the stage for making us perceive ourselves as 'separate bodies' from the greater body.

Alas, the inter-connectivity of all things across infinite microcosms, macrocosms, and ALL TIME echoes the same truth time and time again -- that we deafen our ears to because of our fear of "death" and the NEED to hang on to our puzzle piece... the need to validate our ego.

We are parts; we are connected; He is whole; We are one. Father, Son, Holy Spirit.

Wisdom

uh-oh · 11-01-2013, 06:20 PM

VERITAS I'LL BITE

DISPROVE EVOLUTION

Dope girl · 11-01-2013, 08:46 PM

If you don't how exist then focus on bible.

Tom Sparks · 11-01-2013, 10:02 PM

God only exists in your mind

Destroyer · 11-01-2013, 10:18 PM

I think there may be a god but certainly man has no idea how to properly conceive him.
no religion has any handle on what god is nor will anyone ever have any true grasp on it, regardless what anyone may write down or tell you.
man can barely write down news correctly that happened last Tuesday so there's no reason to believe there is some incorruptible holy text that has somehow been passed down over thousands of years
god is a mystery that man invented because it's an answer to the great unknown that man has always faced.
and it will always remain a mystery.

11-02-2013, 12:00 AM

LOL at any of the supposed 'top tier' boarders taking this serious.

A race thread backed by a religion thread in the same day, both get bites.

Cake is a moron.

Frank Metts · 11-02-2013, 12:02 AM

God exists because as people we need faith in something and because alot of people are to frail to believe in themselves they live vicariously through a deity so we can have someone to blame for the bad and thank for the good, since we are to weak and fragile to blame ourselves for wrong

Life is easier when you believe their is a divine plan for everyone and everything.

Plot · 11-02-2013, 01:08 AM

I think it was Plato who came up with metaphysics.
A chair in reality is imperfect, it has a flaw somewhere and will eventually break.
The idea of a chair is perfect in that it will never break,
it has one flaw though that it isn't real.
God is perfect, therefore he cannot be real.
Or something like that.

Mael · 11-02-2013, 06:04 AM

Does omnipotence exist?

Yes, it does; as a word that has a meaning you can easily find in a dictionary. Although it has no physical implication, and is logically incoherent, it holds semantic value. God is merely that which means a being with attributes that include omnipotence, omniscience and omnipresence (and possibly omnibenevolence).

Whether he exists of not is irrelevant. The word God and it's meaning will haunt language and semantics till the end of time.

That's why oats was able to say what he said.

Split · 11-02-2013, 07:42 AM

Im the same, as I was when I was six years old, and oh my God i feel so damn old but I dont reallly feel anything

11-01-2013, 03:21 PM	#1
Masaii Guest Posts: n/a	ITT: Why God exists Debate ITT.

11-01-2013, 04:49 PM	#3
namix been that, done there. Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 2,259 Battle Record: 2-1 Accomplishments - OM HOF Rep Power: 85246655	Because life is a fractal relationship between infinite micro and macrocosms; as above, so below; the good and bad we see in others is also in ourselves, and that inter-connectivity is also a reflection of what is more and what is less. And that inter-connectivity manifests onward and upward, inward and outward, at an exponential rate and fractal shape. The fractal is all encompassing, "we were created in His image" - and thus, we create in our image. Whether through genetics - or whether through innovative feats of exceeding our own brain processing power and storage. Neither good nor bad - He is wholly holy and holy wholly; perceiving ourselves finite pieces and not perceiving the infinite puzzle we are apart of. The yin and the yang of infinite and finite create the infinite decimals between 0 and 1 --- the gray area between "yes" and "no" -- which enables us to experience... it sets the stage for polarity --- and relativity, both scientifically and emotionally. ...it also sets the stage for making us perceive ourselves as 'separate bodies' from the greater body. Alas, the inter-connectivity of all things across infinite microcosms, macrocosms, and ALL TIME echoes the same truth time and time again -- that we deafen our ears to because of our fear of "death" and the NEED to hang on to our puzzle piece... the need to validate our ego. We are parts; we are connected; He is whole; We are one. Father, Son, Holy Spirit. __________________ well fed.

11-01-2013, 05:22 PM	#7
oats Steel Cut Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 5,084 Battle Record: 19-10 Accomplishments - OM HOF (2x) Champed - Fight Night LXXXIV - Art of Writing League Rep Power: 79005428	Oats da gawd, proof He exists, no need for a why. /thread __________________ You should be water

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Meth Back again. Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 2,653 Battle Record: 12-5 Champed - Time to Kill IV - 1-2 Punch Panic Room Rep Power: 4489511	Over/under on replies for this? Over/under on religious butt hurt totals? __________________ Crystal

11-02-2013, 06:04 AM	#19
Mael Almighty Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 580 Battle Record: 2-3 Rep Power: 428844	Does omnipotence exist? Yes, it does; as a word that has a meaning you can easily find in a dictionary. Although it has no physical implication, and is logically incoherent, it holds semantic value. God is merely that which means a being with attributes that include omnipotence, omniscience and omnipresence (and possibly omnibenevolence). Whether he exists of not is irrelevant. The word God and it's meaning will haunt language and semantics till the end of time. That's why oats was able to say what he said. Last edited by Mael; 11-02-2013 at 06:07 AM.

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PancakeBrah SOBER Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 12,480 Battle Record: 2-5 Champed - AOWL Season 2 Rep Power: 85899407	Oh, a God debate. Groundbreaking, Masaii.

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PancakeBrah SOBER Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 12,480 Battle Record: 2-5 Champed - AOWL Season 2 Rep Power: 85899407	:(

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Nahhh Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 82 Rep Power: 5533	What if god was a midget? I woudn't respect him.

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uh-oh DA GOD Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Canton Ohio Posts: 12,362 Battle Record: 1-0 Champed - Beat Battle II - Beat Battle V - Beat Bags Rep Power: 84181420	VERITAS I'LL BITE DISPROVE EVOLUTION

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Dope girl Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: I live in Florida Posts: 4,788 Battle Record: 3-8 Rep Power: 55521419	If you don't how exist then focus on bible.

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Tom Sparks Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 887 Rep Power: 0	God only exists in your mind

11-02-2013, 12:00 AM	#16
Masaii Guest Posts: n/a	LOL at any of the supposed 'top tier' boarders taking this serious. A race thread backed by a religion thread in the same day, both get bites. Cake is a moron.

11-02-2013, 12:02 AM	#17
Frank Metts Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 2,621 Battle Record: 0-1 Rep Power: 2305789	God exists because as people we need faith in something and because alot of people are to frail to believe in themselves they live vicariously through a deity so we can have someone to blame for the bad and thank for the good, since we are to weak and fragile to blame ourselves for wrong Life is easier when you believe their is a divine plan for everyone and everything.

11-02-2013, 01:08 AM	#18
Plot Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 1,374 Battle Record: 26-32 Rep Power: 1309744	I think it was Plato who came up with metaphysics. A chair in reality is imperfect, it has a flaw somewhere and will eventually break. The idea of a chair is perfect in that it will never break, it has one flaw though that it isn't real. God is perfect, therefore he cannot be real. Or something like that.

11-02-2013, 07:42 AM	#20
Split . Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 8,898 Battle Record: 27-22 Rep Power: 85899398	Im the same, as I was when I was six years old, and oh my God i feel so damn old but I dont reallly feel anything __________________ http://split8.yolasite.com