ITT: Why God exists

[Witty]

Cuz the human babies were making the monkey babies look stupid and the monkeys got jealous and they said no more human babies.

And that was the end of that.

But luckily Jesus came in and did magic with his hands and now humans rule and monkeys throw poop at each other because god made humans in his image and by refusing to give birth to humans it made god think monkeys thought he was ugly and he got really insecure, and he told his son to fuck em up and amen.

[veritas]

Originally Posted by Zenland

V have you seen the soviet unions experiments that turned wild foxes into domesticated dogs? They used Darwin's natural selection theory and applied it in a lab. They bred the violent foxes together creating extremely violent offspring. At the same time they bred the calmer foxes with each other and within three generations (roughly ten years) the foxes began to not even look like foxes. Instead of a fluffy tail they had tails like dogs, were more docile and not fearful of human contact basically turning foxes into dogs. It's very interesting shit if you haven't checked it out before I'd recommend you to check it out.

Sounds like animal eugenics...they did that with humans too!

[Destroyer]

v, u got an answer for my last question?

[veritas]

After people have patience with me and answer my line of quesrioning sure.

[Destroyer]

mmmm hmmm so no
figured

[uh-oh]

Originally Posted by The Mind Assassin

I do....better than you.

Where did the apes come from?

they evolved from the mammals that came before them. i couldnt tell you the specific species, as apes evolved on different continents from different types of mammals etc

and monkeys never gave birth to humans. humans give birth to humans. monkeys give birth to monkeys

[Witty]

I seen a really hairy baby on tv today, it was indian and all of its family was hairy too.

[veritas]

Originally Posted by uh-oh

they evolved from the mammals that came before them. i couldnt tell you the specific species, as apes evolved on different continents from different types of mammals etc

and monkeys never gave birth to humans. humans give birth to humans. monkeys give birth to monkeys

Ok what did those mammals evolve from?

[Destroyer]

answer the real question VERITAS

is god indifferent to bad things happening to good people?
or is he not fully omniscient?

[Seyance]

if you believe in god, do you believe in the bible version? let's talk dinosaurs.

[veritas]

Originally Posted by Destroyer

answer the real question VERITAS

is god indifferent to bad things happening to good people?
or is he not fully omniscient?

I will be happy to answer all questions once mine are answered jude.

[veritas]

Originally Posted by Seyance

if you believe in god, do you believe in the bible version? let's talk dinosaurs.

Go head and talk I am listening.

[oats]

Originally Posted by Destroyer

answer the real question VERITAS

is god indifferent to bad things happening to good people?
or is he not fully omniscient?

this is a loaded question, and not helping your case tbh. theologically speaking, at least from the judeo-christian line of thinking, having free will necessitates suffering/sin. also, the premise would be contested, since biblically, all are born as flawed creatures, meaning no one is "good" in that sense. that's just a moral compass that humans use to differentiate between shitty people and shittier people. again, this is speaking from a theological standpoint to address your question.

my problem with that line of thought, and veritas I'd like to hear your thoughts on this, is whether or not christians believe free will exists in heaven. If yes, then clearly free will does not necessitate sin, and all of human existence seems pretty pointless, unless God planned on/wanted people to go to hell, which is incompatible with the christian view of God.

Or there is no free will in heaven, which begs the question - why have it on Earth then? It's taught that free will is the ultimate sign of love from the omnipotent creator, but if his cradle of perfection (heaven) doesn't include it, then it doesn't sound like free will is all that great of a gift from God.

either way, God doesn't come out looking good.

[uh-oh]

Originally Posted by The Mind Assassin

Ok what did those mammals evolve from?

those mammals evolved from some ancient reptiles.

those ancient reptiles evolved from some ancient amphibians

those ancient amphibians evolved from some form of fish things

those ancient fish things evolved from bacteria/animacules

your next question, where did that come from?

my answer? no one knows. im not ignorant enough to say a "god" is needed to spark life and call it fact.

there isnt any evidence. the same way there isnt evidence that it was panspermia, or there isnt evidence that somehow in the goldilocks zone bacterias just mystically appear

no one knows. but none of that disproves evolution

because evolution occurs and is traceable across time

im also not ignorant enough to cite selective breeding as evolution, because its not. its selective breeding. but it does showcase the same principles which is why i think people try to use it as an argument.

because you can breed out genes and shit

[Destroyer]

well, looking at the concept of free will then
how can there be free will if god already knows what will happen?
or better yet, what's the purpose of this life as a test to determine whether you go to heaven or not if god already knows what you're going to do?
why not just begin in heaven or hell or wherever you'd end up?

[oats]

@Destroyer that's basically what I was saying lol. I've yet to hear a satisfactory answer to that question; if God created everything, why did he do it?

[Malachi]

word

[veritas]

no one knows

I rest my case. Evolution can not explain how all this came about.

We were given two options to believe god made us or we evolved from essentially nothing.



I am rolling with God made us.

[Destroyer]

yay! you ended that line of conversation
now answer me and oats

[veritas]

Restate your question in the final form you wish me to answer.