The Secret Meeting that Changed Rap

[Sharp]

http://www.hiphopisread.com/2012/04/...rap-music.html

We were told that these prisons were built by privately owned companies who received funding from the government based on the number of inmates. The more inmates, the more money the government would pay these prisons. It was also made clear to us that since these prisons are privately owned, as they become publicly traded, we’d be able to buy shares. Most of us were taken back by this... He told us that since our employers had become silent investors in this prison business, it was now in their interest to make sure that these prisons remained filled. Our job would be to help make this happen by marketing music which promotes criminal behavior, rap being the music of choice.

dont know if i believe this, but its a relatively plausible combination of rap, social commentary and conspiracy theory that i found worth sharing. thoughts?

i dont believe it, moreover id like to see who 'he' is and what type of share 'he' has in the private prison sector.

i do believe that music is societies outcry, and rappers being a subset of society usually grow up in the less affluent and more violent areas, so it seems rationale to attribute it to that. imo.

[TYSON]

Damn crazy if true but doubt it...

Rap is the voice of the streets. Originally a outcry like rawn stated but has perversely become a praise of the streets. Glorify instead of asking for change and giving knowledge. Prison is now like a rite of passage or the hood church. If the story is true then they have succeeded.

[Sharp]

again, im not taking this literally but the idea behind it is pretty interesting.

but rawn, you're probably just tired from performing heart surgery in an ambulance while being chased by a helicopter. come back to it after you take a holiday with your sister's friend's husband, the professional hockey player, paid for with leftover money embezzling from fortune 500 companies.


[/iron-knee]

lol, i try not to perform all those things at consecutively bc fatigue can prove dangerous when delving into said affairs....

n btw, thats not really ironic bc not one of my those said things are really 'rapped' about with the exception being car chase... irony would b my non-white collar charges tbph. @Sharp Nine

[TYSON]

Literal or not its shows a valid connection between rap and prison.

ill say this tho, with the way recidivism rates are...private prisons = big business regardless of it being true or not....and after taking the tax cuts n federal/state aid, u can then have ur prisoners do or craft pretty much anything for like 3 cents an hour. its pretty fuckin brilliant, and usually housing and food and arything is worse then public, oddly enough. but from the exterior one would never htink that.

[Sharp]

<3

id listen to that rawn

[Philly]

Contemporary slave labor...
Yea that shit is definitely real.

DAMN SON, WHERE'D YOU FIND THIS

word that would b like a new genre...a whole new untapped market, ur a genius sharp!

[Flow]

While an intriguing read the facts are against this article.

First of all the highest point in history of black prisoners and prisoners in general came in the early 1990's dropping off at an all time high in '95....however this had been rapidly increasing without faulter from 1985, hitting its top point at the 90's where he describes this meeting came into place, and then since has dropped steadily....

So if there plan was real, it would take a least a year to get it in motion, by which point it was on the high of its own and from that point dropped....

Plus the violent image portrayed by people like tu pac could easily be argued as the reasoning behind the drop in arrests on young blacks... tu pac highlighted the racial intent of police and government and law overall at that time, which put pressure on those regulating forces.

ALSO

I quote - I remember about 25 to 30 people being there, most of them familiar faces. (ok so by most lets say half... that's 12-15 faces familiar....)
I also quote - Among the attendees was a small group of unfamiliar faces

So we can fairly assume it was closer to 15 faces that were familiar.

I quote next - A few people refused to sign and walked out
A few...so lets say 5 - that leaves 10 familiar faces....

I quote - Quickly after the meeting began, one of my industry colleagues (who shall remain nameless like everyone else) thanked us for attending.That is one of the familiar faces.... so we have 9 more familiar faces...

THIS IS THE KEY BIT - SO FAR WE ARE AT AROUND 9 FAMILIAR FACES

They separated us from the crowd AND all four of us were escorted outside

So theres 5 familiar faces left, 4 who left the building.... but he then says he doesn't know the names of the 4 that left the building....meaning there are still around 9 familiar faces left inside that building.....- he says he only saw one person from this point onwards and they just stared at each other....

How would he going to events work etc and no doubt knowing a good few names of "familiar" faces never speak to anyone ever again....

come on....

this article annoyed me in the end....

[VividEnds]

First: I do not believe in a rap illuminati.

Second: what is described is simply not that illegal.

Third: any attempt at making money in a capitalist system is inherently good for that system, moral or immoral so long as it is legal

[veritas]

Wrong. This is anothwr entrance to the truth of your planet.

Lucifer has this planets people as slaves.

Ucc1308

[Greed]

I assumed this to be ricky rozays reason for pursuing rap a long time ago.

The theory isn't farfetched

[Joe Metts]

This is obviously not true.

But the one knock i have against hip hop is what it does to kids in the prime of their personality/brain development. Everybody wants to be a gangster and to be the tough guy. While love and peace is shunned aside as being gay.

Not just rap tho. Music, tv, film.

Im 'prisoner' of it all as well just was strong minded enough to grow out of it or move away from it in my case.

Not hip hops fault but a piece of the puzzle definitely as far as crime and no respect for authority is concerned.

[detour]

seen this a while back...I'd bet money it's true...rap is the voice of the streets, but that just made it easy to use for that purpose...

[Inno]

new age slavery folk...get with the program.

[TYSON]

Originally Posted by Mets

This is obviously not true.

But the one knock i have against hip hop is what it does to kids in the prime of their personality/brain development. Everybody wants to be a gangster and to be the tough guy. While love and peace is shunned aside as being gay.

Not just rap tho. Music, tv, film.

Im 'prisoner' of it all as well just was strong minded enough to grow out of it or move away from it in my case.

Not hip hops fault but a piece of the puzzle definitely as far as crime and no respect for authority is concerned.

This^^^^ times 2....

[TYSON]

The hood has a high rate of single mothers so growing up u listened to the old heads and learn most about being a man outside the house. That includes on the streets, tv, and of course music and that atmosphere already around so ain't shit telling u to do different.

[Chyeahhh!!!]

Lucifer was an angel who specialized in music