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Originally Posted by uh-oh

its simple really

pharmaceutical companies are like all companies. they are in business to profit. they are jacking up prices because health insurance and the governnment pay those prices. if it costs 1 dollar to make a pill, but i can charge 10, and actually get it, why would i ever charge less?

if you remove the guarantee they are forced to compete. if no one is ensuring i get 10 dollars a pill, im dropping to 9. my competition drops to 8. i gotta drop to 7, etc. etc.

same with college, if the government isn't backing loans, colleges ain't getting money, tuition prices have to drop, everything drops.

you would rather have the government just say, you have to sell your 1 dollar pill for 5 dollars, and we're also gonna tax the fuck out of you because you are too successful.

so more money goes to this entity you view as corrupt, companies and people have less rights to do as they see fit, and the bloat of useless government grows as they have more of our money to misspend and throw down the drain in those same corporate interests you despise

the point is that we are saying there are industries' whose main function shouldn't be to profit like a business, such as ones that are the catalyst of our own people living or dying.

you are looking only at the business side and not at all at the actual intended function of healthcare. which is weird.

if you make this a nonprofit sector, the people who are in business solely to make money can go to a different sector where their product/service is not the determining factor of someone dying or not. the people who are in this sector to genuinely produce medicine & save lives will stay. you act like nobody is interested in actual healthcare, just the profit, when the industries have actually just been corrupted by people more interested in money than healthcare. again, like i said, it didn't used to be this way. and when it didnt, medicine was affordable. 300k people a year weren't going into medical bankruptcy. why are you so purposely dismissive of the dysfunctional and cruel results? you're supporting a system that bankrupts sick people for profit. why do you see healthcare as a money making business instead of a public utility? well, because that's all you know. but that's the result of political choices. but the alternative is beneficial for our entire countries' health, our livelihood, our stability, our quality of life. these things are more important than money.

please answer - where are you getting the idea that the government is the reason pharmaceuticals are guaranteed to receive the outrageous prices they arbitrarily decide upon? you realize 80million people are without insurance or underinsured, but still buy medication directly?

as far as 'you would rather have the government say' this entire section is inaccurate and misrepresented. medicare for all erases all out of pocket costs and pays for the entire system through a tax instead, which saves hundreds of billions of dollars a year for customers. the insurance companies become obsolete, and the money hungry go elsewhere to make their money. prescription costs are capped at $200 a month. whatever profit that results in for pharma companies is what they will make. if that's not enough for them, it's a free market, go to a different sector that doesn't play with peoples lives. that's pretty simple imo.

also you realize these pharma companies are guilty of overprescribing addictive opioids for profit, starting the opioid epidemic, killing millions of people? this is what an essentially free market health care sector turned into. i really dont get why this is something you think should be allowed to continue other than you value the ability to make money over people's lives.