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[Destroyer]

Communal prevention program? Lol
Look, man. You think abortion is ending a life. But you also obviously place a higher value on these babies lives than you do say a person in need of a kidney transplant. This guy didn’t ask for his kidneys to fail, why should he have to die so you can walk around with your two kidneys intact? Now, am I advocating for that? No. Because it’s fucking insane. But I think that arguing for his right to your kidney is similar to your argument. I mean, you’re saying this guy doesn’t have the right to life support? Why not? The babies do, but kidney guy doesn’t? Why? Babies do have a right to life. They don’t, however, have the right to life support, which is what forcing women to bear them is giving them. So, what I’m asking you, is why not go all the way in your search to preserve life which is so precious? Take organs from people who don’t need them. Take blood from people if you need to - they don’t need all of it- hell, you can drop a pint like every week and be cool. Why does your call to preserve the Uber-precious life stop at the unwanted kind?

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Originally Posted by Destroyer

Communal prevention program? Lol
Look, man. You think abortion is ending a life. But you also obviously place a higher value on these babies lives than you do say a person in need of a kidney transplant. This guy didn’t ask for his kidneys to fail, why should he have to die so you can walk around with your two kidneys intact? Now, am I advocating for that? No. Because it’s fucking insane. But I think that arguing for his right to your kidney is similar to your argument. I mean, you’re saying this guy doesn’t have the right to life support? Why not? The babies do, but kidney guy doesn’t? Why? Babies do have a right to life. They don’t, however, have the right to life support, which is what forcing women to bear them is giving them. So, what I’m asking you, is why not go all the way in your search to preserve life which is so precious? Take organs from people who don’t need them. Take blood from people if you need to - they don’t need all of it- hell, you can drop a pint like every week and be cool. Why does your call to preserve the Uber-precious life stop at the unwanted kind?

I said earlier in this thread I wouldn’t care if there was a mandatory organ donor program. I don’t think it’s a viable legislation. I think abortion when the mother is healthy and had sex by choice is a case of murder. I don’t think abortion laws will make abortions go away or solve any important issues. That doesn’t mean I can’t argue why I believe they’re wrong.

But it’s really insane to me you think this argument makes any sense. Again you have no capacity to understand others points of view. If I see abortion as murder I see someone needing a kidney as someone dying in a traffic accident. It’s something that has nothing to do with anyone but that person and their family. Sourcing organs from strangers isn’t a relevant argument here just because it deals with some form of body autonomy. I am not arguing that abortion is an issue of body autonomy and never will be convinced it is for any reason but the babies body autonomy.