I was having a debate with my zone partner (QUESTION INSIDE)

[Zaddy]

Originally Posted by DMS

no problem my guy. This seems pretty fucking simple tbh. Actions should be punished according to the action. the poor decision by the mother doesn't change what he did, and he's still a possible threat to society. he probably won't be a good father or husband, so there's no reason to pardon him on the child's behalf. This argument doesn't make sense from a utilitarian view or a Kantian view.

Ok, so if the woman said no no don’t take him I want to be with him (stock Holmes syndrome)