Alright here's my pseudo-philosophical thought: I don't believe in truly 'free' will

[Sharp]

Diode gets me

Originally Posted by DMS

Well, our passions and our will are different. Also to have free will is to reason and have control over your physical state. So which do we not have?

I feel like you're missing the point

Every determining factor in any of those is based on stuff that has already happened or already set about you. You can't really have an effect on anything that you control because your reasons for acting a certain way are based on all that

Like I've been saying, it's semantics

Originally Posted by Exis

Thought Gj & Big were suckin' each other, guess not...
@Sharp, my bad didn't read everythin' fam...Are you sayin' Destiny is determined by choices, or is I completely off kilter?...

Not really talking destiny. Just saying when you make a decision and choose A instead of B, everything that informed your decision to pick A is something you can't control (like your personality and past experiences)

Really it's just a petty issue with how the phrase 'free will' is interpreted

[DMS]

Originally Posted by Sharp

Diode gets me

I feel like you're missing the point

Every determining factor in any of those is based on stuff that has already happened or already set about you. You can't really have an effect on anything that you control because your reasons for acting a certain way are based on all that

Like I've been saying, it's semantics



Not really talking destiny. Just saying when you make a decision and choose A instead of B, everything that informed your decision to pick A is something you can't control (like your personality and past experiences)

Really it's just a petty issue with how the phrase 'free will' is interpreted

I’d argue all those outside factors effect our emotional side, not our rational one, or our logical one(we don’t think differently, in terms of logic, just that we think with less logical thought), so we still choose are actions, because we act through will not passion. If you act off of passion and not logic, I suppose you could say you didn’t “choose” what you based your action on, but you still decided to act how you did. “Free-will” is just being able to choose your actions by yourself. If not the universe is deterministic, which can’t be true because we have reason.