Dmx "its dark and hell is hot" is better than any album Jayz ever made

[Ghost1]

anyone COULDVE been the goat tho? just happens that jay IS.

dmx is obv a losing case but who else do u even have to put up against jay?

my friend recently posed kanye against jay.......which I disagreed with....but he atleast had an arguable case

[Mr. Faggot]

Originally Posted by Ghost1

anyone COULDVE been the goat tho? just happens that jay IS.

dmx is obv a losing case but who else do u even have to put up against jay?

my friend recently posed kanye against jay.......which I disagreed with....but he atleast had an arguable case

Nas is light years better than Jay Z

And he anailated jay in a battle....

Illmatic and it was written shit, on Jay-Z whole body of work.

Tupac is easily better Goat material than Jay-Z

Jay-Z is the equivalent to a NBA player who scored 19 points a game for 15 or 16 straight seasons...he is a great player...but never was the best player in the league during any era...so the longevity puts him in the talks. ..but you can't be the goat when you never was the best at any point

[Ghost1]

If u want to have Nas vs jay thread just look up an old one

U wanted to put x against jay

That's dead


Illmatic is the best hip hop album ever....that's fine but that's the only top tier shit he ever made

Saying jay wasn't the best at any point of his entire career is absurd and only said to fit ur position. It has no basis in reality.

I'd be willing to have a debate about someone being more logical for the goat title but so far u giving me dmx Nas and pac ...I mean..... It's just not even reasonable

And I fuck w dmx and pac heavy even Nas gets spin but they aren't on Jay's level he's just all encompassing whereas none of them have even a shred of his depth or influence into the full realm of hip hop that he does and I haven't heard a case proving otherwise not even close.

[Mr. Faggot]

Originally Posted by Ghost1

If u want to have Nas vs jay thread just look up an old one

U wanted to put x against jay

That's dead


Illmatic is the best hip hop album ever....that's fine but that's the only top tier shit he ever made

Saying jay wasn't the best at any point of his entire career is absurd and only said to fit ur position. It has no basis in reality.

I'd be willing to have a debate about someone being more logical for the goat title but so far u giving me dmx Nas and pac ...I mean..... It's just not even reasonable

And I fuck w dmx and pac heavy even Nas gets spin but they aren't on Jay's level he's just all encompassing whereas none of them have even a shred of his depth or influence into the full realm of hip hop that he does and I haven't heard a case proving otherwise not even close.

Find anywhere that i said X was the goat or had a better career than Jay. I never said that...I said its dark n hell is hot is better than any jay album and that in the late 90's X ran new York.


Now if you want to discuss Goats...there are easily 5 names ahead of Jay-Z if we keep the discussion strictly music. All arguments for jay always resorts back to business.

Nas body of work is better than Jay z.
Tupac died at 24 but he has 3 classic albums.
Biggie died young both albums classic...

Biggie may not of had enough material to get goat status but he was clearly better than Jay

I don't really like the goat arguments to be honest...its just to me JAY-Z as a business man makes ppl label him more than he is

And Jay Z had more influence on hip-hop than 2pac? Are you serious?