Finally saw black panther - Page 3

Eŋg · 03-24-2018, 01:25 PM

i liked the movie, btw. t'challa's dialogue with his father in the ancestral plain lit with a purple-sky, erik killmonger's mirrored scene with his pops where the same sky can only be seen through shitty project windows, and the final dialogue between the two cousins were all dope.

but there are a lot of problems with it, and with the (overwhelmingly) positive reaction from its demograph. no one thinks for themselves anymore it's depressing.

ACTIVATE SELF · 03-24-2018, 01:34 PM

It was sadly only just a movie. But 90% of the population doesn't read or travel enough to formulate an educated perspective on the world. But they do watch television, go to the movies and listen to music. Three forms of media that have historically been used to condition the mind via social engineering. For instance, there is a reason it was once called tv "programing". In any case, showing strong and prominent African Americans on screen. In a positive light. Does have a physiological effect on young and impressionable minds. There is no doubt what Eng said is true. It is a Disney film after all. A company that is at the pinnacle of subversive and subliminal imagery and messaging. However, that is only one side of the coin. Because Black Panther (on a microcosmic level), much like the tenure of former President Obama, may not be perfect, may even have a hidden agenda, but the superficial symbology of what it represent for black and brown people the world over is a powerful thing. Art has long imitated life, but it seems over the last century or so, in many instances, the opposite has been true. Thus saying, the more movies we have like Black Panther the more the world's view of certain subgroups of people will start to change. Of course this argument is independent of economic and political inequalities. I'm just speaking on social perspectives in terms of media influence that can have a real effect on altering stereotypical points of view.

ACTIVATE SELF · 03-24-2018, 01:41 PM

If one wants to change the world he must first start by changing the way that people look at it. Weapons and armies can only do so much. Men can eventually be defeated. Ideas. Well, ideas are a harder thing to extinguish.

ACTIVATE SELF · 03-24-2018, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghost1

It was that deep tho. The metaphor for racial disparity among African Americans and Africans alone was hugely thought provoking and also insightful towards the loss of individual cultures due to globalization/Americanization in which uniformity is taking the place of unique local traditions accross the board for ALL nationalities worldwide with persistent efforts towards equality at the price of neglecting tribal family values.

It's not that it wasn't deep....you're just not a deep thinker.

Excellent point.

veritas · 03-24-2018, 02:21 PM

No love for Logan? Ouch.

big baby · 03-24-2018, 02:30 PM

i echo bagga....'let uniforms worn by african negro baseball teams were dirty and a metaphor for dirt but then that all changed when the fire nation attacked (white ppl) it was thought proving and also insightful towards the loss of resodocuall vultures who were out to eat flesh of blacks and browns alike..... the americanization of all nations listed worldwide is a local tradition like christmas and evangelism..... towards equality at the price of a chili dog and neglecting as good value at family dollar... it wasn't that u not deep it's just u not deep thinka

Eŋg · 03-24-2018, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by veritas

No love for Logan? Ouch.

I mentioned this the last time I saw a thread about BP.

veritas · 03-24-2018, 02:32 PM

Word.

Ghost1 · 03-24-2018, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by big baby

i echo bagga....'let uniforms worn by african negro baseball teams were dirty and a metaphor for dirt but then that all changed when the fire nation attacked (white ppl) it was thought proving and also insightful towards the loss of resodocuall vultures who were out to eat flesh of blacks and browns alike..... the americanization of all nations listed worldwide is a local tradition like christmas and evangelism..... towards equality at the price of a chili dog and neglecting as good value at family dollar... it wasn't that u not deep it's just u not deep thinka

Annihilated

ACTIVATE SELF · 03-24-2018, 02:36 PM

Logan is top 5.
Blade is as well.
I think I'm in the minority, but I always thought Constantine was pretty good for a comic flick.

Ghost1 · 03-24-2018, 02:44 PM

Spiderman 2 w toby is top5 an always gets slept on

Chamber · 03-24-2018, 03:09 PM

infinity wars gonna be Goat tho.

but Winter solider is the best marvel movie fuck wat ya heard boi.

Batty · 03-24-2018, 03:13 PM

Gotta agree with ncgs on Winter Soldier. Bucky was a fucking G in that shit too.

The first Guardians of the galaxy is up there too tho tbh. That shit was what new Star Wars wish it could be in space genre.

to me, it's really a matter of what type of movie you like best. Like, the first 2 thor movies took themselves seriously, but Ragnarok was funny af. But, cottdamn bros, Hulk vs Thor in the arena was childhood dream come true and it was even better than I could dream up.

Winter Soldier was a spy thriller type flick like Jason Bourne or Mission Impossible but better.

I ain't seen Black Panther yet. When I was about to see it, the NAACP was renting entire screening rooms for private viewings and I was like, nah, this has gotten too silly, I will wait.

The only real beef ive seen ppl having with it was women saving the day like the sjws love now and some of the cg looking dated.

that last Star Wars movie was sjw cringe trash city.

Enbombz · 03-24-2018, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghost1

It was that deep tho. The metaphor for racial disparity among African Americans and Africans alone was hugely thought provoking and also insightful towards the loss of individual cultures due to globalization/Americanization in which uniformity is taking the place of unique local traditions accross the board for ALL nationalities worldwide with persistent efforts towards equality at the price of neglecting tribal family values.

It's not that it wasn't deep....you're just not a deep thinker.

not a deep thinker it is then. The armoured rhino's metaphor was touching though.

ACTIVATE SELF · 03-24-2018, 03:44 PM

Lol smh

Enbombz · 03-24-2018, 04:04 PM

But in all seriousness I don't know what I really got from it.

I mean the "we don't get involved in anyone's affairs" seemed like a dig at America world police. Then when they concluded they should be getting involved it felt they only said that they shouldn't get involved so they could say they really should I.e they do the right thing.

The deepest bit was that they had to create a fake country so there would be a advanced and wealthy country in Africa. I think life's a bit deeper than the movie the movie just scraped the surface.

ACTIVATE SELF · 03-24-2018, 04:23 PM

I think the best thing about the movie is that it sparked dialogue. It's interesting to see the different points of view and interpretations people had about it.

Inno · 03-24-2018, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghost1

Spiderman 2 w toby is top5 an always gets slept on

Bruh I dunno why Toby gets so much hate spider 2 was fucking awesome. And @ACTIVATE SELF Constantine is one of my favorite movies. It has one of the greatest cameos I think in movie history. The guy who played the devil dam near made it s classic for me lol. And John wick never disappoints

Inno · 03-24-2018, 04:29 PM

It doesn’t matter what or how you feel about the movie.

When you see little black and brown kids excited to see soem one that looks like them on tv and they aren’t playing a rapper, gang banger, poorr, janitor roll. THAT is what is most important thImg about making movies like these.

Representation goes a long way. It’s why shows like the Cosby show and this movie are so important.

ACTIVATE SELF · 03-24-2018, 04:30 PM

Bruh, when I think of movie devils that's like the first thing that comes to mind.

03-24-2018, 01:34 PM	#42
ACTIVATE SELF Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Posts: 732 Battle Record: 2-1 Champed - Art of Writing League Rep Power: 19584275	It was sadly only just a movie. But 90% of the population doesn't read or travel enough to formulate an educated perspective on the world. But they do watch television, go to the movies and listen to music. Three forms of media that have historically been used to condition the mind via social engineering. For instance, there is a reason it was once called tv "programing". In any case, showing strong and prominent African Americans on screen. In a positive light. Does have a physiological effect on young and impressionable minds. There is no doubt what Eng said is true. It is a Disney film after all. A company that is at the pinnacle of subversive and subliminal imagery and messaging. However, that is only one side of the coin. Because Black Panther (on a microcosmic level), much like the tenure of former President Obama, may not be perfect, may even have a hidden agenda, but the superficial symbology of what it represent for black and brown people the world over is a powerful thing. Art has long imitated life, but it seems over the last century or so, in many instances, the opposite has been true. Thus saying, the more movies we have like Black Panther the more the world's view of certain subgroups of people will start to change. Of course this argument is independent of economic and political inequalities. I'm just speaking on social perspectives in terms of media influence that can have a real effect on altering stereotypical points of view. Last edited by ACTIVATE SELF; 03-24-2018 at 02:00 PM.

03-24-2018, 01:41 PM	#43
ACTIVATE SELF Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Posts: 732 Battle Record: 2-1 Champed - Art of Writing League Rep Power: 19584275	If one wants to change the world he must first start by changing the way that people look at it. Weapons and armies can only do so much. Men can eventually be defeated. Ideas. Well, ideas are a harder thing to extinguish. Last edited by ACTIVATE SELF; 03-24-2018 at 02:02 PM.

03-24-2018, 03:09 PM	#52
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03-24-2018, 01:25 PM	#41
Eŋg rhyme capsule. Join Date: Sep 2018 Posts: 2,146 Rep Power: 0	i liked the movie, btw. t'challa's dialogue with his father in the ancestral plain lit with a purple-sky, erik killmonger's mirrored scene with his pops where the same sky can only be seen through shitty project windows, and the final dialogue between the two cousins were all dope. but there are a lot of problems with it, and with the (overwhelmingly) positive reaction from its demograph. no one thinks for themselves anymore it's depressing.

03-24-2018, 02:36 PM	#50
ACTIVATE SELF Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Posts: 732 Battle Record: 2-1 Champed - Art of Writing League Rep Power: 19584275	Logan is top 5. Blade is as well. I think I'm in the minority, but I always thought Constantine was pretty good for a comic flick.

03-24-2018, 02:44 PM	#51
Ghost1 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 26,349 Battle Record: 0-1 Rep Power: 84181442	Spiderman 2 w toby is top5 an always gets slept on

03-24-2018, 03:13 PM	#53
Batty that nigga Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: trailer house Posts: 2,739 Rep Power: 85899382	Gotta agree with ncgs on Winter Soldier. Bucky was a fucking G in that shit too. The first Guardians of the galaxy is up there too tho tbh. That shit was what new Star Wars wish it could be in space genre. to me, it's really a matter of what type of movie you like best. Like, the first 2 thor movies took themselves seriously, but Ragnarok was funny af. But, cottdamn bros, Hulk vs Thor in the arena was childhood dream come true and it was even better than I could dream up. Winter Soldier was a spy thriller type flick like Jason Bourne or Mission Impossible but better. I ain't seen Black Panther yet. When I was about to see it, the NAACP was renting entire screening rooms for private viewings and I was like, nah, this has gotten too silly, I will wait. The only real beef ive seen ppl having with it was women saving the day like the sjws love now and some of the cg looking dated. that last Star Wars movie was sjw cringe trash city.

03-24-2018, 03:44 PM	#55
ACTIVATE SELF Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Posts: 732 Battle Record: 2-1 Champed - Art of Writing League Rep Power: 19584275	Lol smh

03-24-2018, 04:04 PM	#56
Enbombz Not Joog Join Date: Nov 2016 Posts: 769 Battle Record: 9-5 Rep Power: 5907770	But in all seriousness I don't know what I really got from it. I mean the "we don't get involved in anyone's affairs" seemed like a dig at America world police. Then when they concluded they should be getting involved it felt they only said that they shouldn't get involved so they could say they really should I.e they do the right thing. The deepest bit was that they had to create a fake country so there would be a advanced and wealthy country in Africa. I think life's a bit deeper than the movie the movie just scraped the surface.

03-24-2018, 04:23 PM	#57
ACTIVATE SELF Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Posts: 732 Battle Record: 2-1 Champed - Art of Writing League Rep Power: 19584275	I think the best thing about the movie is that it sparked dialogue. It's interesting to see the different points of view and interpretations people had about it.

03-24-2018, 04:29 PM	#59
Inno Ad mini tator Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 10,005 Battle Record: 26-54 Champed - Lime Green Poetry Association - Black August - 1-2 Punch League Rep Power: 85899400	It doesn’t matter what or how you feel about the movie. When you see little black and brown kids excited to see soem one that looks like them on tv and they aren’t playing a rapper, gang banger, poorr, janitor roll. THAT is what is most important thImg about making movies like these. Representation goes a long way. It’s why shows like the Cosby show and this movie are so important.

03-24-2018, 04:30 PM	#60
ACTIVATE SELF Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Posts: 732 Battle Record: 2-1 Champed - Art of Writing League Rep Power: 19584275	Bruh, when I think of movie devils that's like the first thing that comes to mind.