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Ghost1 · 01-26-2018, 03:20 PM

the difference in that analogy tho is that their well being doesn't affect my day to day life positively or negatively.....its similar...in that both involve the torture of seemingly intangible parties but taking away the torture of animals takes food off my plate.....taking away the torture of Syrian refugees is irrelevant from a personalized perspective. so the analogy is flawed until u can make the refugees impact my personal life. sure yea morally I want to say hey don't kill those people theyre just like you and I...but here again that's different from animals....there is a greater level of value to human lives than animal lives to me.

you could probably alter the analogy or pose another one that puts us into a hypocritical scenario but I don't think we are really arguing or that you have a point to prove here to me that I haven't already admitted to being aware of initially. killing and torturing animals is bad or unpleasant if youre an animal....or if youre really in tune with other animals but for myself...and the vast majority of the population based on consumer purchasing habits alone its a non factor. like I said previously...and I don't think we are disagreeing ...theyre just not a tangible material. solve that problem and you solve vegan hesitation.

01-26-2018, 03:20 PM	#30
Ghost1 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 26,334 Battle Record: 0-1 Rep Power: 84181445	the difference in that analogy tho is that their well being doesn't affect my day to day life positively or negatively.....its similar...in that both involve the torture of seemingly intangible parties but taking away the torture of animals takes food off my plate.....taking away the torture of Syrian refugees is irrelevant from a personalized perspective. so the analogy is flawed until u can make the refugees impact my personal life. sure yea morally I want to say hey don't kill those people theyre just like you and I...but here again that's different from animals....there is a greater level of value to human lives than animal lives to me. you could probably alter the analogy or pose another one that puts us into a hypocritical scenario but I don't think we are really arguing or that you have a point to prove here to me that I haven't already admitted to being aware of initially. killing and torturing animals is bad or unpleasant if youre an animal....or if youre really in tune with other animals but for myself...and the vast majority of the population based on consumer purchasing habits alone its a non factor. like I said previously...and I don't think we are disagreeing ...theyre just not a tangible material. solve that problem and you solve vegan hesitation.