Hip hop vs mumble rap

[Inno]

What y'all folk think

[uh-oh]

pretty much the reason i said hip hop is in its worst place of all time though

don't tell these guys though they think everything is fine

meanwhile everyone who ever meant anything to hip hop thinks different but word

[Ghost1]

Yea Laffy taffy was fine guys that was better

Nas declared hip hop dead

Weord it didn't die

Grow up idiots




Didn't watch


But will

[uh-oh]

laffy taffy soulja boy etc was the beginning of the ending, it wasn't the main thing though, they were big sure but it wasn't the overriding theme

mumble rap is huge, thats what you aren't getting

its not as relevant to us, because we find what we like. but to the masses mumble rap is the majority, along with like drake and kendrick, major drop off after the few others, meanwhile there is a dozen mumble rappers who are huge



fire^

no one gives a shit though

the argument is basically towards the young. when i was 16 i was bumping 11 minute cassidy freestyles and shit lol. 16 year olds now would rather listen to a post malone or some shit than a joey badass

joey badass' fanbase is older than a lil yachty fanbase

the youth is what determines what pops, the youth don't give a fuck about hip hop.

[Inno]

Bit the argument that all hip hop now is trash is dead

There's plenty of great Hiphop being put out

[Mr. J]

Everything in hip hop is rapped though............

[Ghost1]

I'm not doing this exact same thread again w u uh oh lol

It's a passing trend

Everything will be ok bruh

[Certain]

Originally Posted by uh-oh

everyone who ever meant anything to hip hop thinks different but word

You know pretty much every legend has co-signed Kendrick Lamar, right? You know Jay Z has signed more than a small handful of these guys, right? You know Dr. Dre and Mos Def and Nas and De La Soul and Prodigy and Busta Rhymes and Q-Tip and Andre 3000 and Big Boi and Bun B and on and on have all worked with these young rappers, right?

[2tripple0]

Lol weakness isn't duckin love y'all get me cuz we all gotta figure it out shit ain't finished I aunt get no sleep yet like yo wat up wats good I guess...lol...I like rap music lol...your stupid shit shut up bitch back and forth pass around??? Yeah they lie to you but you the one touching it tits in mouth fuck it boo you chicken with the bate you smoochin stay frozen like igloo

[Hearder Hearder]

This is a good video

[uh-oh]

Originally Posted by Certain

You know pretty much every legend has co-signed Kendrick Lamar, right? You know Jay Z has signed more than a small handful of these guys, right? You know Dr. Dre and Mos Def and Nas and De La Soul and Prodigy and Busta Rhymes and Q-Tip and Andre 3000 and Big Boi and Bun B and on and on have all worked with these young rappers, right?

i used kendrick lamar and drake as examples outside of mumble rap.

jay z is a business man. he's gonna sign whatever is hot at the moment to make money. if you remember back when rocafella was poppin he signed literally every NY dude who was ever dope in an attempt to strengthen the roster. mop/mobb deep etc. see how that worked out for him. why sign talent when you can sign a random hot mumble rapper and rape them.

busta rhymes is a drunk lmao. who'd he cosign tho, i remember him jumping around with ot genesis, falling off stages

the day a producer i respect fucks with them is the day i'll stop. you won't see premier cosign this. he'd rather work with real singers and make actual pop music. pete rock don't fuck with this. alchemist don't fuck with these dudes, he fucks with the new HIP HOP dudes. dr dre lost credibility years ago. he used to set trends now he follows them. just listen to that bullshit compton album.

the people i respect don't respect mumble rap. if you want to post the tracks with nas de la soul etc where they are collabing with a lil uzi vert go ahead i'll check them out

[2tripple0]

Werd sounds goofy see u @six kiss kiss pussy lol nah jk see wat I did there and as I continue its gusto's place I'm too above my growth tagging pics with audio your all on solid airway free speech step one book of rights shit bro that homie drop you anyways ya speech suck I inaugurate Congress like a shepherds witness it's this one here it sucks cause life is always better on the other side....

[Certain]

So when those guys work with ScHoolboy Q, then ScHoolboy Q works with Future, that means nothing to you. Also for a guy who says new rap sucks, you made this label of real hip hop guys that apparently includes a lot of rappers who care out in the past five-or-so years.

[oats]

a few minutes in, KRS has a really generous viewpoint of people in prison if he thinks they mature into remorseful men

[Certain]

I take it you're not too familiar with Lawrence Parker's world view, @quaker oats?

Also y'all need to keep in mind that KRS-One was declaring rap dead in 1995. His entire style was outdated by the time his second album dropped thanks to Rakim, and he's been bitter about it for almost three decades.

[oats]

I know next to nothing about KRS tbh. how would you describe his worldview @Certain.

I liked this video, and agree with basically all of it, but I gotta side with bags on this. mumble rap is gonna pass and good shit will always be around. and the good stuff now, I think, is just as good if not better than the old good shit, but that's another thing altogether.

[uh-oh]

Originally Posted by Certain

So when those guys work with ScHoolboy Q, then ScHoolboy Q works with Future, that means nothing to you. Also for a guy who says new rap sucks, you made this label of real hip hop guys that apparently includes a lot of rappers who care out in the past five-or-so years.

Your last sentence lost me, but i dont care if schoolboy q collabs with future. I dont care when a hip hop dude collabs with an rnb singer either. I dont even know what we're arguing at this point

My main point is mumble rap is whats big right now not hip hop. It will pass like everything ever, no ones saying its gonna stay forever, no genre has stayed the same forever

If mumble rap is put under the hip hop banner, then hip hop is in its worst place of all time. I dont think its hip hop. They claim it though, stations play it, on itunes if you go under the genres its in there etc. Its garbage and its huge. Throwing out mid tier artists like they are whats happening now is ignoring that mumble rap bodies them in every modern metric.

[Inno]

I wish I could find that video of scarfacw saying this is all
Conspiracy to keep black people looking stupid and ignorant.

Sounds crazy but it has some value.

I'll look for it.
@uh-oh dj premier already consigned playa.

Did u see that part in the vid where lil yachty says not to put on that old ass beat?

That was a premier beat. Yachty called premier to squash any misunderstanding.

Premier is quoted saying he doesn't hate anything new that coming out. And that
He's got no qualms with yachty.

I'm sure if he was on that tip u on he would said something other wise.


But tbh only people I see hating is old niggas who can't sell records anymore. Lmao

[Certain]

I just don't know that mumble rap is "what's big right now."

Drake is what's big right now. J. Cole is a bigger deal than Future or Young Thug, in all honesty.

[Certain]

Scarface let Mike Jones and Petey Pablo on his album.