WHY DO WE NOT TAKE ADVANTAGE OF OUR SELF CONSCIENCE-NESS AND SELECTIVELY BREED

[sral]

Originally Posted by uh-oh

we have some misconceptions here but i'll answer your points by the numbers


2. i've still yet to mention intelligence, you bring it up. i mention it in the sense that we can't quantify it in the sense that its passed on. like i said einsteins parents were dolts. his kids are regular dummies too. intelligence as i understand it is a crapshoot. the smartest people can have dumbass kids and vice versa.

as far as BEAUTY, beauty is absolutely quantifiable through evolutionary science. we all have preferences, but across recorded history, and across every single culture, women go for taller men, broader shoulders etc., and men seek the hourglass figure. we like wide hips and fat asses because it helps with child rearing. we like big tits cuz it can nourish the offspring better, as well as the extra fat just helps the child in UTERO. but from ancient times to modern times the hourglass figure is revered, like i said we all vary in preferences, some guys like really skinny chicks with boy bodies. but we are working with averages here, and there is a reason instagram models with nice asses and tits have millions of followers, there is a reason certain pornstars are more popular than others etc. i'm sure you're thinking of maybe victorian times when paintings had goofy fat women in them and we're taught oh they liked fat women then, but keep in mind if you were fat you were well off, and also even those fat women would dress in dresses that got huge and puffy at the hips and tight at the waist with a corset with the tits smashed and pushed up. accentuating the hourglass figure you can see in every culture celebrated.

Okay, so we'll leave intelligence alone for now since we haven't defined what you mean by "intelligence" for now anyway. Even though you talked on "beauty", you mentioned quite a few athletes in LeBron/Serena/Brock and so I think what you're actually looking for is "Health".

Beauty it is, emperor Uh-oh. You have your definition of what beauty is. Unfortunately for you, not every man alive agrees (as seen in Bags recent attempt to upgrade grocery store Tinderella to a strong 6).


Why does this not happen automatically?
-Low standards by men. IIRC it was Helen Gurley-Brown who remarked, "men will schtupp mud." Considering what's pushing around baby strollers either, this is very true or they have some deep inner beauty... very deep.

-Some health problems - heart issues, breast cancer, alzheimers - tend to not appear until breeding selection and actvity has passed. If we were actively selecting for good traits, these would not be identified.

-Many (especially late in life) health issues also relate to environmental factors, so selection does not matter. Many we still have no idea about the real cause.

-Modern medicine and other technology is actually working to send us backwards. Not only do people with poor vision, for example, have glasses that allow them to avoid being culled by random accidents, they also have contact lenses so the defect is not evident during the mating phase.

-Similarly, modern techniques with cosmetics, cosmetic surgery, etc. hide the effects of poor genes during the mating phase.

-Similarly, we have welfare, medicare, etc. that allow the less capable to continue to reproduce, when social as well as medical circumstances might have limited the number or survivability of offspring. Also, we have birth control for the upper class, meaning the successful have more incentive and means to reduce their offspring which would cut into the lifestyle and toys they can have.

essentially the rule of thumb is probably that it's 50-50; so a not-so-smart person with a good education and training can outperform a smart lazy bastard.

-Success and more offspring does not correlate with smarts or fitness. Who is better suited for passing on their relatively lesser quality genes? Trump seems to have more children than Einstein...

[uh-oh]

Originally Posted by sraL

Okay, so we'll leave intelligence alone for now since we haven't defined what you mean by "intelligence" for now anyway. Even though you talked on "beauty", you mentioned quite a few athletes in LeBron/Serena/Brock and so I think what you're actually looking for is "Health".

Beauty it is, emperor Uh-oh. You have your definition of what beauty is. Unfortunately for you, not every man alive agrees (as seen in Bags recent attempt to upgrade grocery store Tinderella to a strong 6).


Why does this not happen automatically?
-Low standards by men. IIRC it was Helen Gurley-Brown who remarked, "men will schtupp mud." Considering what's pushing around baby strollers either, this is very true or they have some deep inner beauty... very deep.

-Some health problems - heart issues, breast cancer, alzheimers - tend to not appear until breeding selection and actvity has passed. If we were actively selecting for good traits, these would not be identified.

-Many (especially late in life) health issues also relate to environmental factors, so selection does not matter. Many we still have no idea about the real cause.

-Modern medicine and other technology is actually working to send us backwards. Not only do people with poor vision, for example, have glasses that allow them to avoid being culled by random accidents, they also have contact lenses so the defect is not evident during the mating phase.

-Similarly, modern techniques with cosmetics, cosmetic surgery, etc. hide the effects of poor genes during the mating phase.

-Similarly, we have welfare, medicare, etc. that allow the less capable to continue to reproduce, when social as well as medical circumstances might have limited the number or survivability of offspring. Also, we have birth control for the upper class, meaning the successful have more incentive and means to reduce their offspring which would cut into the lifestyle and toys they can have.

essentially the rule of thumb is probably that it's 50-50; so a not-so-smart person with a good education and training can outperform a smart lazy bastard.

-Success and more offspring does not correlate with smarts or fitness. Who is better suited for passing on their relatively lesser quality genes? Trump seems to have more children than Einstein...

word but again im strictly talking physical in my selection process lol. i'm disregarding pretty much everything else. i wasn't thinking about predisposition to ailments/diseases or anything, im just talking about building better humans from a physical sense. the same way when you selectively breed dogs to get an ugly english bulldog, your not worried about its health or lifespan as much as you want it to look like it does. great danes might be a better analogy in the sense they are bred to be giants, they aren't fat either they're just beasts who live like 6-8 years tops lol. sure we could look at all dogs and breed them for intelligence/health/lifespan etc. to make a "perfect dog" but where is the fun in that. lets just breed the biggest scariest coolest looking ones.

also i'm pretty sure the dumb/ugly breed at a way higher rate then the intelligent. im going off of my own dumb life experiences but the dumbest people i know have at least 2 kids. im not sure how it is in england but in america you get rewarded for being a piece of shit leech on the system. i know people who have more kids to get more free money every year. with every kid on your tax return your basically giving yourself more money at the end of the year, and you are also incentivized to make less money so you get more "food stamps" every month. my best friend from back in the day literally has 4 kids, they make MAYBE 15k a year on the books, but they get like 7 grand back in taxes when in reality they probably pay like 2 in tops. they get 600 a month in foodstamps, and sell half of them for actual cash, and he smashed his hand at work and lost a finger, so even though he's capable of working again he continues to leech the system through workers comp, gets free prescriptions to painkillers and sells the majority of them for more money

got a little off track there but word. the dumb and less "fortunate" have more incentive to breed

the problem is this worked in the past when we needed copious amounts of ditch diggers and assembly line shills, but with innovations in robotics and everything else, and the myth you need a college education to survive, there is nothing for these dummies to do.

which is why we should build a master athlete race and start a gigantic war. the dummy plebs can work in factories to feed the war machine and we can make america great again