why do i feel like im the only drug-free person here?

[Witty]

This is the problem with the world...people think an opinion can't be wrong.

Like when Christians say they believe the world is only a few thousand years old...no, you are incorrect...your opinion is wrong.

Science is nothing like religion, it isn't based on opinion, it's based on evidence...people have died from withdrawal, it is documented, it is a fact.. opinions are meaningless against facts.

[Amen]

Originally Posted by Witty

This is the problem with the world...people think an opinion can't be wrong.

Like when Christians say they believe the world is only a few thousand years old...no, you are incorrect...your opinion is wrong.

Science is nothing like religion, it isn't based on opinion, it's based on evidence...people have died from withdrawal, it is documented, it is a fact.. opinions are meaningless against facts.

Science is determined off of data. Or evidence, as you call it.

Opinions come from data.

So if a scientist makes an opinion off of data, does that make his opinion a fact? Just because he is a scientist?

Help me understand your concerns here.

Like I previously stated, I've heard people have died from withdrawals but have never seen any date nor have applied effort to look. So as far as I'm concerned; it's hear say until I can see some data with my own eyes proving these claims.

that's all I'm saying.

Numbers do not lie.

The people imputing them numbers have the potential to lie or exacerbate. How do we not know, the person imputing those numbers weren't hung over or potentially entered in the wrong number?

I guess i'm getting in to conspiracy and probability now, LOL.

Plus, I've also heard, withdrawals from Benzo's are probably the worst withdrawals PROVEN. But again, haven't seen nor do I care to research data proving these claims.

Opinions are opinions.

Facts are facts.

In the end, who really gives a shit? A drug addict is a drug addict.

Wtf was the original topic about anyways?

Addiction being mental or physical, right? HA.

[Certain]

Originally Posted by bonKerz

Science is determined off of data. Or evidence, as you call it.

Correct. We're off to a good start!

Originally Posted by bonKerz

Opinions come from data.

Well, good opinions can be rooted in data, but yours are not. As you literally said a few posts up, you have not looked at data.

Originally Posted by bonKerz

So if a scientist makes an opinion off of data, does that make his opinion a fact? Just because he is a scientist?

No, scientists don't draw opinions off data. They draw conclusions that are then checked by dozens of other labs and scientists in peer-reviewed formats. Nothing is verified until the peer reviews are complete.

Originally Posted by bonKerz

Help me understand your concerns here.

Mostly about how you manage to function in life.

Originally Posted by bonKerz

Like I previously stated, I've heard people have died from withdrawals but have never seen any date nor have applied effort to look. So as far as I'm concerned; it's hear say until I can see some data with my own eyes proving these claims.

I'm guessing you've also never seen any data proving you need oxygen to breathe. So, I assume that's hearsay, too.

Originally Posted by bonKerz

that's all I'm saying.

All you're saying is that you refuse to get informed on a topic that you choose to have opinions about.

Originally Posted by bonKerz

Numbers do not lie.

You haven't even looked at numbers!

Originally Posted by bonKerz

The people imputing them numbers have the potential to lie or exacerbate. How do we not know, the person imputing those numbers weren't hung over or potentially entered in the wrong number?

This is fucking absurd. For one, the numbers inputted are vetted over and over again by scientists.

Originally Posted by bonKerz

I guess i'm getting in to conspiracy and probability now, LOL.

Nah, you're getting into justifying your own inadequacy.

Originally Posted by bonKerz

Plus, I've also heard, withdrawals from Benzo's are probably the worst withdrawals PROVEN. But again, haven't seen nor do I care to research data proving these claims.

I just provided a link to research to show that alcohol withdrawal is worse.

Originally Posted by bonKerz

Opinions are opinions.

Novel thought.

Originally Posted by bonKerz

Facts are facts.

And you avoid them.

Originally Posted by bonKerz

In the end, who really gives a shit? A drug addict is a drug addict.

But I thought it was all mental?

Originally Posted by bonKerz

Wtf was the original topic about anyways?

A little worried about your memory loss.

Originally Posted by bonKerz

Addiction being mental or physical, right? HA.

No because it's both. Inarguably. As proven. By thousands of scientists across the world. You just are too ignorant to look it up.

[Ghost1]

Originally Posted by Certain

Correct. We're off to a good start!



Well, good opinions can be rooted in data, but yours are not. As you literally said a few posts up, you have not looked at data.



No, scientists don't draw opinions off data. They draw conclusions that are then checked by dozens of other labs and scientists in peer-reviewed formats. Nothing is verified until the peer reviews are complete.



Mostly about how you manage to function in life.



I'm guessing you've also never seen any data proving you need oxygen to breathe. So, I assume that's hearsay, too.



All you're saying is that you refuse to get informed on a topic that you choose to have opinions about.



You haven't even looked at numbers!



This is fucking absurd. For one, the numbers inputted are vetted over and over again by scientists.



Nah, you're getting into justifying your own inadequacy.



I just provided a link to research to show that alcohol withdrawal is worse.



Novel thought.



And you avoid them.



But I thought it was all mental?



A little worried about your memory loss.



No because it's both. Inarguably. As proven. By thousands of scientists across the world. You just are too ignorant to look it up.

Idk if I love certain for this or infinitely hate amen more for this ha


Reps for certain regardless

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