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Old 06-20-2016, 08:08 PM   #1
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for sure it was the best depiction of battle i've seen. i mean how stuff happened can be criticized, like oh lets just watch 1000 pikemen encircle us and not try to cut them off. but prior to the knights of the vale, when everyone was squished together with no room i couldn't help but think of the battle of cannae when hannibal slaughtered 70k romans, pretty sure it was livy who described the fact that the romans were so packed together they suffocated eachother standing. jon climbing up through them for breath brought it to mind

word about the predictability, i knew the vale would come, but i didnt think it would be that desperate. jon is supposed to be robbs rival. the young wolf, who was undefeated on the battlefield. at least for awhile i don't remember if he actually lost a battle. but either way i didnt picture jon throwing away the lives of his entire army because he's mad about a brother he never really knew. i was kind of hoping he would charge them DOLO and get murked for it. lmao.

but word was fucking crazy.

i wouldnt put it past them to tie everything up in the last episode and have the last 20 minutes be all cersei, in a lead up to her nuking kings landing, and them NOT showing the nuking. basically season 7 starting with kings landing going up in flames, and daenrys seeing it from the sea or some shit.

because she's basically aegon reborn. she has the giant dragon in drogon. she'll make her own queens landing.

but season 7 should be her, and jon rallying everyone, and slaughtering those too dumb, in a lead up to season 8, where they should spend an entire season on a battle against the white walkers.

question though because i don't remember?

did mance rayder have the horn of winter or whatever? in the show? because what the fuck happened to that? if the nights king gets it and blows it the magic in the wall is destroyed and they can pass it.

i'm still waiting on the giant ice spiders but they'll probably leave them out. even in the books i'm pretty sure they just ride zombie horses, its just old nans fables that mention them.

but yea i expect to see sam, maybe arya, bran, more of winterfell/sansa/littlefinger/jon, maybe some daenerys, and cersei getting wrapped up/put on track to end the season

then another long year until next season

with any hope the next book will come out before then, and the book will cover more and go further

but i doubt it on both accounts.
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Old 06-20-2016, 08:41 PM   #2
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I'm going to wager there will be deaths in the final episode seeing as that has been the result of the last 2 seasons to close out.

Im positive you will see the tower of joy, and that is a pretty much a good bet on what will be the closing scenes of the season. There are some interesting rumors about Rheagars harp being in Lyanna's tomb and that being part of what is used to prove his lineage. I don't think Jon specifically will find out, but i think the audience will find out and get confirmation on R+L=J

Its also a possibility that Arya gets involved in some revenge on the Frey's and the BwB and the hound interrupt Walders wedding. Maybe even get to see LS finally make an appearance.


It will be interesting to see if Cersei actually loses her shit and burns down Kings Landing, and its very possible that Tommen dies... thus completing the prophecy told to her. This could also be the end scene as well with Kings Landing burning and a winter storm on the horizon hence the name of the episode.

Im not sure we will get to see Danny leave just yet or the rumor of the wall coming down so early. That would be a lot of time to waste for the final showdown in essentially 1.5 seasons or whatever it would work out to be. Gotta give some time for Jon to rally the northern houses and to make a pact with Danny for the final confrontation with the WW. The timing would be off for them to breach the wall this early.

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prior to the knights of the vale, when everyone was squished together with no room i couldn't help but think of the battle of cannae when hannibal slaughtered 70k romans, pretty sure it was livy who described the fact that the romans were so packed together they suffocated eachother standing. jon climbing up through them for breath brought it to mind
yeah if you watched until after the credits on HBO the writers said thats exactly what inspired that scene
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oh word. im googling now and seeing the director also got inspiration from alexander the great, which makes sense because of the pikemen, which alexander employed to basically steamroll from greece to india. i guess the wall of the dead was inspired from the civil war, where bodies would stack so high they'd be an obstruction on the battlefield, but like im reading i was wondering how the fuck that happened. makes no sense in this type of battle with cavalry and infantry. everyone wouldnt die in the same spot lol.

but word it was dope. i just think it was dumb they made ramsay the military genius over snow. but they gotta pull the heartstrings of viewers and show the beloved jon snow being emotional for his brother i guess
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oh word. im googling now and seeing the director also got inspiration from alexander the great, which makes sense because of the pikemen, which alexander employed to basically steamroll from greece to india. i guess the wall of the dead was inspired from the civil war, where bodies would stack so high they'd be an obstruction on the battlefield, but like im reading i was wondering how the fuck that happened. makes no sense in this type of battle with cavalry and infantry. everyone wouldnt die in the same spot lol.

but word it was dope. i just think it was dumb they made ramsay the military genius over snow. but they gotta pull the heartstrings of viewers and show the beloved jon snow being emotional for his brother i guess
jon snow's plot armor game so strong

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