Congratulations my fellow americans

[boof]

i get it,

but its california, and everyone involved knows bernie won by quite a bit, and its our last chance, so we're doing quite a bit over here to make sure they all get counted

although the closest they're letting us get so far, as a 'volunteer monitor', is in the same room, in a roped off spot, 30 feet away from the people actually counting the provisionals, so really they can count them whichever way they please,

but santa barbara was one of the first counties to get done and bernie has now officially won it. that trend is expected to continue

:)

[PancakeBrah]

That's awesome. He still has no chance.

:)

[veritas]

someone explain how socialism is the answer? legit question.

[boof]

legit answer if you're that against socialism then quit reaping its benefits. stay away from public roads, parks, libraries, don't call the police or firefighters in case of an emergency, go ahead and get rid of your trash yourself(works great in india), fork up the dough for your kids private schooling, don't expect social security, and on and on for about 60 more examples

but lets freak out when someone proposes we add health care and 4 years of extra schooling to the list


really though nobody said it was the end all be all "answer" to anything, its two ideas, to help lower the burden we've been enduring for decades. we pay way too much for college and health care. socializing it would help that.

[FLOOR LINED]

if Hillary is our choice, my prediction is that not enough people will vote & Trump will win. If it was Bernie, I think enough people would leave their couches to vote & win. I fear for what Trump will do for the poor and rich... he will dig us deeper and deeper into this ditch.

Socialism is good, up to a point. Sticking us all in the same boat allows for less of us to truly prosper... but there are basic human needs that everybody should get, like health care and education. We could force the rich to attend public schools instead of private schools, and allow the rich to donate funds into the public schools that their children attend... but that would create another version of the monopoly that we're already trapped in.

I dunno.

I think we're further trapped no matter what, but a best case scenario would be a 3rd party winning the Presidency. Green party probably has the best chance and is concerned with the environment and animal rights... so they would have my support, if I supported any party.

Either way, the next president is bought out by the richest.

[uh-oh]

Originally Posted by boof

legit answer if you're that against socialism then quit reaping its benefits. stay away from public roads, parks, libraries, don't call the police or firefighters in case of an emergency, go ahead and get rid of your trash yourself(works great in india), fork up the dough for your kids private schooling, don't expect social security, and on and on for about 60 more examples

but lets freak out when someone proposes we add health care and 4 years of extra schooling to the list


really though nobody said it was the end all be all "answer" to anything, its two ideas, to help lower the burden we've been enduring for decades. we pay way too much for college and health care. socializing it would help that.

its kind of silly to say things like don't expect social security when you don't have a choice in the matter. if you're legally employed the government takes it whether you agree with it or not. same for all of those things. you're taxed for all of that, and at no point in time are you given the choice to not pay it. unless of course you break the law, work under the table and avoid paying taxes on your earnings.

so its stupid to not get/take advantage of what you are already paying for.

which is already more than enough. we don't need free healthcare. we need free market healthcare. we don't need free college, there are enough jobs unfilled for people without degrees, and more that can always be made. also if the government didnt back the ridiculous loans people take out for college, colleges would be forced to be competitive to get money at all. when they're guaranteed money why not guarantee yourself more?

so to tax people more, for more things they won't have a choice about is stupid.

espescially when you consider the fact they are already completely incompetent when it comes to spending the enormous amounts of money they already receive. but yea lets give them more of our money.

its dumb.

[~RustyGunZ~]

Floor lined really gets politics

[Finnydot]

Until the federal reserve bank is closed and we return to the greenback this country, and its people, will forever be in debt. Not a single person in this country deserves to die more than Allen greenspan and berneke or wtf you spell his name. Those fuckers are the reason why everything is fucked. In 2008 they literally took a shit on every Americans front lawn and no one gives a shit. The political mirage is a smoke screen to keep us arguing with each other about legislation while corporate thugs rob us of the very clothes off our back.

If the American government have 2 shits about its people the fuckers at jp morgan, bank of america, wells fargo, and citi bank, would have been stripped naked and beaten in the streets and made an example of. They said they prevented global catastrophe, but they only preserved the fucked up situation we're in. And if you think that's bad, these fuckers got away with 700 billion so they keep doing it in smaller numbers all around the country.

This, coupled with the absolute and disgusting amount of chicanery that goes on during election time makes me sick.