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(in which a logical person refuses to engage a moron and the moron declares victory)
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I mean like your underlying reasoning
I totally agree that this online argument won't get shit done but I'm still tryna figure out what exactly you believe and why in a non-judgmental way As of now I'm seeing Libertarian and apparently not socialist? But calling socialism fairy tales doesn't really do much for a discussion bro |
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Everything im reading says she has 2200 delegates and bernie has 1400 also
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Anyone who can't see that modern American politics is a work is a fool. Bring on ww3.
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They've already overwhelming pledged their votes to Hillary though and when you factor in their support, Hillary is demolishing Sanders. Of course they can change their vote but there is absolutely no reason to expect them to, considering Hillary is already in the lead with regular delegates. Bear in mind that this is the exact same strategy Obama used to defeat Hillary 8 years ago, I hate being the bringer of bad news but Sanders is already done and this is why the media (even liberal media) reports it this way.
At this point Sanders staying in the race does nothing but help Trump. Besides the obvious way, in that Sanders is attacking Hillary, but isn't going to win the nomination, the idea is that Hillary has to "go more left" for the Sanders voters - who are going to vote for Hillary already. If she actually goes more left, she risks losing voters that are in the middle. And considering she is saying things like she wants a cabinet that's at least 50% female now, Sanders has the potential to do a lot of damage here.
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? i'm not sure what your point is, as you said, they switched to obama in july as well, and bernie is ahead of the pace obama was as far as pledged delegates, and states won. so them switching is still very possible. i really could care less what the media has to say, liberal or not, the majority of reports haven't been trustworthy at any point in this race, and mostly patronizing towards the entire sanders following. sanders supporters aren't going to vote for hillary, and if he doesn't win the nomination, with the understanding that he has had 65-70% of the independent vote, which is 48% of eligible voters in america, and he has won every open primary, there's no reason to not write him in in november as well. |
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Any divide or shift in the parties has to come from the top, not the people. We've seen this through 230 years of this two-party system.
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dear socialists: who is going to pay for it?
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but word @veritas pay for what? |
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Free schooling, Free healthcare, free anything that the socialists promise, Boof
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Well....that looks good on paper. In response to hurting the rich and corporate profits...how do you think they will respond?
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@veritas if we're referring to the corporations already stashing all of their tax money abroad, we're obviously not going to lose money by enforcing stricter tax policies. they can either pack up and move their company to tax havens like puerto rico or ireland or wherever, like pfizer is doing, which means they'll no longer be robbing the middle class, or they can pay their fair share, and if the ladder rings true, then the people in charge of those companies can either cut jobs or cut their own ridiculous wages. now if this trend started by a handful of companies to lower ceo wages and raise bottom level employee wages continues, then things can move upwards. but if these tax dodgers all decide to leave then it's whatever. they're awful companies anyways, and we can continue to let renewable energy companies and the proposed infrastructure jobs replace any loss the economy or workforce takes.
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you think the dnc is cool with losing millions of brand new democrats to a 3rd party that could legitimately disrupt their shot in the general election ?
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so, like, you don't think they would just increase their prices to still make the same (or more!) profit? Also...are we all equal?
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