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Old 04-25-2016, 09:54 PM   #1
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There is definitely a creator. A force and a consciousness behind existence. Biblical God? I believe does not exist just a form of control.
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Old 04-25-2016, 10:48 PM   #5
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There is definitely a creator. A force and a consciousness behind existence. Biblical God? I believe does not exist just a form of control.

Super facts.

I've always said there's no bearded white guy in the clouds but there is a creator. Some kind of supercomputer type intelligence we can't even come close to understanding. Like energy, vibrations and supreme mathematics.

But what do I know. Nothin
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Old 04-26-2016, 11:17 AM   #10
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This thread has the potential to be a deep philosophical exploration into the minds of the urban culture youth and distinguished OG wiggers alike.

There are clearly GODS, the question is whether or not you believe in a creator, a higher power or a vice. Drugs are a God for a lot of peeps.

I mean yo, some people even think they are their own God and who am I to say that isn't true? Especially if they do things to showcase ways they worship themselves. Depends on how you define the shit.

For a minute on the lime, I thought Action Bronson was God. He was worshipped to the point of 47% of the board looking like him in pics.

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Old 04-26-2016, 12:15 PM   #11
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There is no need of a creator. As humans and living creatures to an extent we create. Therfore we prescribe our human way of doing things onto whatever higher power we believe in.

That skyscraper didnt grow there. We created it. That beehive didnt just appear, the bees created it. This thread didnt just come from nowhere, sharp made it. Since this is such a natural thing to us we believe something created the universe and the all, whether its biblical, spiritual, scientific or technological in the sense of a simulation, our puny brains try to compensate and make sense of it, but there is no sense to be made.

I dont believe in a creator. I dont believe in anything. Im agnostic because its the only thing that makes sense. To declare one way or the other is ridiculous.
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Old 04-26-2016, 12:43 PM   #13
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There is no need of a creator. As humans and living creatures to an extent we create. Therfore we prescribe our human way of doing things onto whatever higher power we believe in.

That skyscraper didnt grow there. We created it. That beehive didnt just appear, the bees created it. This thread didnt just come from nowhere, sharp made it. Since this is such a natural thing to us we believe something created the universe and the all, whether its biblical, spiritual, scientific or technological in the sense of a simulation, our puny brains try to compensate and make sense of it, but there is no sense to be made.

I dont believe in a creator. I dont believe in anything. Im agnostic because its the only thing that makes sense. To declare one way or the other is ridiculous.
Actually, I'd say you do believe in "something". I mean, the logic you showcased there clearly shows a thought pattern. You believe everything was created by us, but that we were not created. The anomaly in your logic is that we weren't "created". That would make us unique and without explanation, so it would take some form of faith to decide where we came from (I mean, still sounds supernatural, right?)


These discussions are generally unproductive because people are divided into religious nuts, hipsters, people who are angry at God/Christians and myself.

The one thing that we can probably all agree on is the power of our brains, we are extremely limited in our levels of understanding. I mean, ever heard anybody try to explain space to you? It's always expanding, right? Well then, what is it expanding into? What do you call the void that space expands onto and fills?

Eventually your mind will hit a brick wall. All of this I'm agnostic/vegan/transgender/atheist/fagnostic/an ass man/Pentecostal/etc is just hipster talk when you get right down to it. It's to the point where society has just basically become fanboys when it comes to everything.

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well its all stupid really, what your really debating about is starts and ends, when we have no evidence of such, only evidence of ongoingness, (just made a new word) And its really stupid if you make up a god then he has to be the maker and then you have to think about how it ends.... its just stupid.
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There is no need of a creator. As humans and living creatures to an extent we create. Therfore we prescribe our human way of doing things onto whatever higher power we believe in.

That skyscraper didnt grow there. We created it. That beehive didnt just appear, the bees created it. This thread didnt just come from nowhere, sharp made it. Since this is such a natural thing to us we believe something created the universe and the all, whether its biblical, spiritual, scientific or technological in the sense of a simulation, our puny brains try to compensate and make sense of it, but there is no sense to be made.

I dont believe in a creator. I dont believe in anything. Im agnostic because its the only thing that makes sense. To declare one way or the other is ridiculous.
just to be clear, you're an agnostic atheist not an agnostic

agnosticism doesn't deal with belief, it deals with proof. you can believe in god and be agnostic. it just means that you acknowledge that there is no proving one way or the other.

being an atheist simply means you lack belief in god.

which would make you an agnostic atheist
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I disagree UH-OH. There is no human somewhere in the clouds watching over us. However, the act of existence is the creator. When you completely count out the idea of there being a consciousness behind creation you leave out many important concepts. Like the fact that scientist agree they have no idea what an actual solid is. Everything we see is made up of minute matter so minute you couldnt see it with the naked eye. The force holding it together making it appear solid is a frequency. A vibration. Soundwaves. Only by illusion do we appear solid. I say that force holding us together is the creator.

And how about time. We are living in the past and future as time runs constantly in all directions all at once. We believe time is measured in days and nights but what about on other planets where days and nights are different. Where a day in one planet is 10, 15, 20 years here. Theres too much magic in the universe for there to be no higher consciousness.

Furthermore, deja vu, telekenesis, these are explained by SCIENTIST by there being ONE consciousnesses. We all come from the same consciousness and return upon death. As even these quantum sciences are debatable I would say it is all just theory, at the same time I find it impossible to believe in NOTHING. Do I think we need a savior? Not at all, I believe we have the choice to fight for what we feel is right, or believe in strongly, or die trying. I believe we were created with the ability to survive or die and that is what freewill is.
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i think the key problem is we don't understand definitions.

agnostic simply means you don't believe in god, or disbelieve in god, because there is no proof either way.

maybe my definition sucks. of god i mean, because the "god" i don't believe or disbelieve in is what you guys are deeming a creator.

when i hear creator, i think of a being of some sort, CREATING everything.

i'm saying to think everything had to be CREATED is a flaw in human thinking. we can't wrap our heads around the fact that things just, ARE. shit exists.

who knows why. since we can communicate, and be self conscience we get this giant ego where we figure out trivial things like gravity and laws of motions and all types of other shit that seem like these amazing scientific discoveries. but in the giant puddle of soup the universe lives in we are nothing.

we are the tiniest mote of dust in a sea of feces. we are as insignificant as our thoughts, and our understandings are thus insignificant as well.

so in summary, while we all try to make sense of the universe, from the lowliest dummies who believe in a god, to the highest of idiots who search out answers through science, in the major scheme of things we're all idiots on a rock catapulting through a space which will never be understood

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