why do i feel like im the only drug-free person here? - Page 7

Certain · 08-19-2016, 10:25 PM

Benzodiazepine and alcohol withdrawal symptoms are more likely to be fatal. Even in those cases, quitting cold turkey with nothing to help the process tends to be the only way someone would die.

Source: http://americanaddictioncenters.org/...risk-of-death/

Either way, @uh-oh, I genuinely believe you are smart enough to grasp that addiction to those substances (and crystal methamphetamine and crack cocaine) is not mental and is in fact physical. I get that you like to put on your Rust Belt poverty cape and stick up for idiots who say idiotic things, from Donald Trump to Trademark, but come the fuck on.

uh-oh · 08-19-2016, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Certain

Benzodiazepine and alcohol withdrawal symptoms are more likely to be fatal. Even in those cases, quitting cold turkey with nothing to help the process tends to be the only way someone would die.

Source: http://americanaddictioncenters.org/...risk-of-death/

Either way, @uh-oh, I genuinely believe you are smart enough to grasp that addiction to those substances (and crystal methamphetamine and crack cocaine) is not mental and is in fact physical. I get that you like to put on your Rust Belt poverty cape and stick up for idiots who say idiotic things, from Donald Trump to Trademark, but come the fuck on.

i'm in no way saying there isn't a physical dependency to these drugs, im saying it can be mentally overcome. i'm not even saying it's not a "disease" i'm just saying they should make a different word for it or something lmao. because like i said when i think disease i think like aids or malaria. basically something that requires a CURE. but i get it. i gotta be the contrarian though or else this site would be a circle jerk that devolves into no one posting anything because we all already agree with eachother so whats the point in discussing anything

trump 2016

Witty · 08-20-2016, 05:15 AM

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i'm in no way saying there isn't a physical dependency to these drugs, im saying it can be mentally overcome. i'm not even saying it's not a "disease" i'm just saying they should make a different word for it or something lmao. because like i said when i think disease i think like aids or malaria. basically something that requires a CURE. but i get it. i gotta be the contrarian though or else this site would be a circle jerk that devolves into no one posting anything because we all already agree with eachother so whats the point in discussing anything

trump 2016

How can something which kills you involuntarily be overcome mentally?

I've seen people going cold turkey off hard drugs, your body is either strong enough to pull through it, or it isn't.

Heroin withdrawal absolutely kills people.

PancakeBrah · 08-19-2016, 10:53 PM

Rust belt poverty cape is strong phrasing. Repped.

veritas · 08-19-2016, 11:10 PM

From my professional experiences the addict will do one of two things.. admit that they are, or justify how they are not.

uh-oh · 08-19-2016, 11:04 PM

certain's rep power has me by 8 points. cakes got me by 53. kind of silly for the gaps to be so small in our insanely giant numbers.

im tempted to neg you both to see what happens with our shitty terrible rep system. but i reserve my negs for the creature known as big baby. and by reserve them i mean i try to neg and remember i need to spread it around and then close netcees and jerk off

Junto · 08-20-2016, 04:06 AM

what a bunch of fuckin divas

Amen · 08-20-2016, 07:49 AM

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what a bunch of fuckin divas

What up my dude?

Word @ uh-oh

LOL - I've heard people have died from H withdrawals but have never seen any statistics - so as far as I'm concerned, it's hear say.

@Certain - sorry, H isn't for me man. I'd never touch it. Plus don't need your money, bruh. I'm sure I make double of what you make.

I prefer Benzo's. I have a script for xanax (footballs to be exact) AND just finished my script of ClonoazePAM 1MG.

Anxiety is a mother fucker. Only take as needed tho, they are lethal.

You're all welcome to start making the DRUG ADDICT posts itt, like you predictable faggots will do.

veritas · 08-20-2016, 07:59 AM

Heroin withdrawal being fatal is not anecdotal amen.

If you would just admit your wrong I think these losers might like you more?

Amen · 08-20-2016, 08:26 AM

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Heroin withdrawal being fatal is not anecdotal amen.

If you would just admit your wrong I think these losers might like you more?

Wrong about what, tho?

In my opinion - addiction is a mental thing. Even those science states it's physical - I don't believe that it is. It's proven that some scientific studies aren't facts. Just a bunch of data gathered by a bunch of educated people with a bunch of hypothesiseseses lol.

I just feel addiction is a mental disorder kind of like depression.

Am I wrong for feeling this way? NO. Am I scientifically wrong? SURE.

But if science was always factual, then why are scientist questions the laws of gravity when an Olympic gymnist hit the trapeze?

IDK man... Science is kind of like religion - once again, IMO LOL.

Guess I question everything...

Witty · 08-20-2016, 08:07 AM

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What up my dude?

Word @ uh-oh

LOL - I've heard people have died from H withdrawals but have never seen any statistics - so as far as I'm concerned, it's hear say.

@Certain - sorry, H isn't for me man. I'd never touch it. Plus don't need your money, bruh. I'm sure I make double of what you make.

I prefer Benzo's. I have a script for xanax (footballs to be exact) AND just finished my script of ClonoazePAM 1MG.

Anxiety is a mother fucker. Only take as needed tho, they are lethal.

You're all welcome to start making the DRUG ADDICT posts itt, like you predictable faggots will do.

You haven't seen the statistics because you haven't looked for them.

Witty · 08-20-2016, 05:39 AM

Heroin withdrawal is no joke, seeing someone come off that shit will change your life...it's scary.

Same with alcohol.

Diode · 08-20-2016, 07:46 AM

Insufflating heroin and injecting heroin aren't even the same fucking game let alone ballpark, uhoh.

Witty · 08-20-2016, 08:12 AM

Whoever said you're much more likely to die coming off alcohol than heroin is correct tho.

But the risk is there for both, as well as a few others.

Witty · 08-20-2016, 08:47 AM

This is the problem with the world...people think an opinion can't be wrong.

Like when Christians say they believe the world is only a few thousand years old...no, you are incorrect...your opinion is wrong.

Science is nothing like religion, it isn't based on opinion, it's based on evidence...people have died from withdrawal, it is documented, it is a fact.. opinions are meaningless against facts.

Amen · 08-20-2016, 08:59 AM

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This is the problem with the world...people think an opinion can't be wrong.

Like when Christians say they believe the world is only a few thousand years old...no, you are incorrect...your opinion is wrong.

Science is nothing like religion, it isn't based on opinion, it's based on evidence...people have died from withdrawal, it is documented, it is a fact.. opinions are meaningless against facts.

Science is determined off of data. Or evidence, as you call it.

Opinions come from data.

So if a scientist makes an opinion off of data, does that make his opinion a fact? Just because he is a scientist?

Help me understand your concerns here.

Like I previously stated, I've heard people have died from withdrawals but have never seen any date nor have applied effort to look. So as far as I'm concerned; it's hear say until I can see some data with my own eyes proving these claims.

that's all I'm saying.

Numbers do not lie.

The people imputing them numbers have the potential to lie or exacerbate. How do we not know, the person imputing those numbers weren't hung over or potentially entered in the wrong number?

I guess i'm getting in to conspiracy and probability now, LOL.

Plus, I've also heard, withdrawals from Benzo's are probably the worst withdrawals PROVEN. But again, haven't seen nor do I care to research data proving these claims.

Opinions are opinions.

Facts are facts.

In the end, who really gives a shit? A drug addict is a drug addict.

Wtf was the original topic about anyways?

Addiction being mental or physical, right? HA.

Certain · 08-20-2016, 09:09 AM

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Science is determined off of data. Or evidence, as you call it.

Correct. We're off to a good start!

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Opinions come from data.

Well, good opinions can be rooted in data, but yours are not. As you literally said a few posts up, you have not looked at data.

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So if a scientist makes an opinion off of data, does that make his opinion a fact? Just because he is a scientist?

No, scientists don't draw opinions off data. They draw conclusions that are then checked by dozens of other labs and scientists in peer-reviewed formats. Nothing is verified until the peer reviews are complete.

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Help me understand your concerns here.

Mostly about how you manage to function in life.

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Like I previously stated, I've heard people have died from withdrawals but have never seen any date nor have applied effort to look. So as far as I'm concerned; it's hear say until I can see some data with my own eyes proving these claims.

I'm guessing you've also never seen any data proving you need oxygen to breathe. So, I assume that's hearsay, too.

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that's all I'm saying.

All you're saying is that you refuse to get informed on a topic that you choose to have opinions about.

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Numbers do not lie.

You haven't even looked at numbers!

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The people imputing them numbers have the potential to lie or exacerbate. How do we not know, the person imputing those numbers weren't hung over or potentially entered in the wrong number?

This is fucking absurd. For one, the numbers inputted are vetted over and over again by scientists.

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I guess i'm getting in to conspiracy and probability now, LOL.

Nah, you're getting into justifying your own inadequacy.

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Plus, I've also heard, withdrawals from Benzo's are probably the worst withdrawals PROVEN. But again, haven't seen nor do I care to research data proving these claims.

I just provided a link to research to show that alcohol withdrawal is worse.

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Opinions are opinions.

Novel thought.

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Facts are facts.

And you avoid them.

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In the end, who really gives a shit? A drug addict is a drug addict.

But I thought it was all mental?

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Wtf was the original topic about anyways?

A little worried about your memory loss.

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Addiction being mental or physical, right? HA.

No because it's both. Inarguably. As proven. By thousands of scientists across the world. You just are too ignorant to look it up.

Ghost1 · 08-20-2016, 10:05 AM

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Correct. We're off to a good start!

Well, good opinions can be rooted in data, but yours are not. As you literally said a few posts up, you have not looked at data.

No, scientists don't draw opinions off data. They draw conclusions that are then checked by dozens of other labs and scientists in peer-reviewed formats. Nothing is verified until the peer reviews are complete.

Mostly about how you manage to function in life.

I'm guessing you've also never seen any data proving you need oxygen to breathe. So, I assume that's hearsay, too.

All you're saying is that you refuse to get informed on a topic that you choose to have opinions about.

You haven't even looked at numbers!

This is fucking absurd. For one, the numbers inputted are vetted over and over again by scientists.

Nah, you're getting into justifying your own inadequacy.

I just provided a link to research to show that alcohol withdrawal is worse.

Novel thought.

And you avoid them.

But I thought it was all mental?

A little worried about your memory loss.

No because it's both. Inarguably. As proven. By thousands of scientists across the world. You just are too ignorant to look it up.

Idk if I love certain for this or infinitely hate amen more for this ha

Reps for certain regardless

Ether

veritas · 08-20-2016, 08:58 AM

Bro....amen....real talk....I like you....but please hearken...

If it was just mental there would be no need for detox units at hospitals.

In terms of mental.....addiction affects the mind and the brain.

C'mon man.

Amen · 08-20-2016, 09:16 AM

LOL, certainly persistent.

Looks like I took an L here.

08-19-2016, 10:25 PM	#1
Certain Mad fucking dangerous. Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 12,066 Battle Record: 40-19 Champed - AOWL Season 3 - Art of Writing League (2x) Rep Power: 85899406	Benzodiazepine and alcohol withdrawal symptoms are more likely to be fatal. Even in those cases, quitting cold turkey with nothing to help the process tends to be the only way someone would die. Source: http://americanaddictioncenters.org/...risk-of-death/ Either way, @uh-oh, I genuinely believe you are smart enough to grasp that addiction to those substances (and crystal methamphetamine and crack cocaine) is not mental and is in fact physical. I get that you like to put on your Rust Belt poverty cape and stick up for idiots who say idiotic things, from Donald Trump to Trademark, but come the fuck on. __________________ I'm just swinging swords strictly based on keyboards, unbalanced like elephants and ants on seesaws.

08-19-2016, 10:53 PM	#4
PancakeBrah SOBER Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 12,480 Battle Record: 2-5 Champed - AOWL Season 2 Rep Power: 85899407	Rust belt poverty cape is strong phrasing. Repped. __________________ Netcees 2025 Revivalist Movement Founder

08-19-2016, 11:04 PM	#6
uh-oh DA GOD Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Canton Ohio Posts: 12,362 Battle Record: 1-0 Champed - Beat Battle II - Beat Battle V - Beat Bags Rep Power: 84181420	certain's rep power has me by 8 points. cakes got me by 53. kind of silly for the gaps to be so small in our insanely giant numbers. im tempted to neg you both to see what happens with our shitty terrible rep system. but i reserve my negs for the creature known as big baby. and by reserve them i mean i try to neg and remember i need to spread it around and then close netcees and jerk off __________________ EVERYBODY I KNOW GOT WEED OR GOT POWDER BUT I AINT GOT EITHER. GOT ALOT OF DEMONS

08-20-2016, 05:39 AM	#12
Witty Lime Life Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 16,978 Battle Record: 30-41 Accomplishments - Only Slightly Retarded Champed - Lyric Olympics - Summer Classic Rep Power: 85235118	Heroin withdrawal is no joke, seeing someone come off that shit will change your life...it's scary. Same with alcohol. __________________ He listens to voices inside of his mind Explicit and poisonous violent crime.

08-20-2016, 07:46 AM	#13
Diode PR's Finest Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 14,165 Battle Record: 12-7 Rep Power: 85899410	Insufflating heroin and injecting heroin aren't even the same fucking game let alone ballpark, uhoh. __________________

08-20-2016, 04:06 AM	#7
Junto The Founder Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 827 Battle Record: 30-11 Accomplishments - Shadow Pic Roast Champed - Key Grand Prix 3 - NBL Season 8 Rep Power: 11766208	what a bunch of fuckin divas

08-20-2016, 08:12 AM	#14
Witty Lime Life Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 16,978 Battle Record: 30-41 Accomplishments - Only Slightly Retarded Champed - Lyric Olympics - Summer Classic Rep Power: 85235118	Whoever said you're much more likely to die coming off alcohol than heroin is correct tho. But the risk is there for both, as well as a few others. __________________ He listens to voices inside of his mind Explicit and poisonous violent crime.

08-20-2016, 08:47 AM	#15
Witty Lime Life Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 16,978 Battle Record: 30-41 Accomplishments - Only Slightly Retarded Champed - Lyric Olympics - Summer Classic Rep Power: 85235118	This is the problem with the world...people think an opinion can't be wrong. Like when Christians say they believe the world is only a few thousand years old...no, you are incorrect...your opinion is wrong. Science is nothing like religion, it isn't based on opinion, it's based on evidence...people have died from withdrawal, it is documented, it is a fact.. opinions are meaningless against facts. __________________ He listens to voices inside of his mind Explicit and poisonous violent crime.

08-20-2016, 09:16 AM	#20
Amen As-salamu alaykum! Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 8,462 Battle Record: 19-8 Champed - 1-2 Punch League Season 6 Rep Power: 0	LOL, certainly persistent. Looks like I took an L here.