01-04-2016, 07:32 PM | #21 |
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lol what do you mean? Also, start off with Tupac's greatest hits album @Destroyer
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So is man by default good or evil?
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01-04-2016, 07:50 PM | #23 |
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oats, isn't that what the one fish says to the other?
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one fish told the other to start with Pac's Greatest Hits album? Sounds like two dope fishes.
also, 2DopeFishes to replace 2DopeBoys 2016.
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does your sig have nothing to do with DFW?
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it's Bruce Lee, isn't it?
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Its all violence and the threat of it. We are living creatures whose movements are determined by self preservation. We can have ideaologies and agendas that seem unique but in the end its to further our own lives. If an al qaeda leader or isis or hezbollah or filthy jew can brainwash someone into blowing themselves up, he furthered his own agenda at living longer while also instilling fear in others further empowering himself. And the person dead was fucking stupid. Darwinism. The smart guy talked the dumb guy into dying.
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uh oh needs to chill with the whole thinking thing
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@uh-oh does consensus factor in to your world view at all?
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The general consensus of all humans is we dont want sharp things entering our bodies or blunt objects crashing into us. People and cultures set up rules that you can follow to lower the probability that it will happen to them. If you steal from me i want to harm you. So dont steal. If you harm me and i survive i can end you so you dont harm me again. Etc. We can pretend we arent animals but we are. Nothing is complex. We can study the structures of society like laws political institutions and everything else but its all derived from the avoidance of physical harm.
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etc etc In short, social order could always collapse but it takes "something big", whether it's a jarring event, or a slower decline from unaddressed systemic issues. Last edited by Pharaohs Army; 10-23-2016 at 10:21 PM. |
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@pharaoh's army - I read an opinion that what Marx failed to také in to account was the drive and ability of the opressed to overcome as individual rather than as a unit, and that his worldview supposed that the weak and downtrodden will always be so unless they unite, disregarding individuality as a means to escape.
Would you agree? I think he was right about the problem, but fell short on the solution.
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Uh oh got a point
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After I posted, I realized that you had said this, succinctly, b4 i said Perhaps at some point humans just realized "why pick this berry or vegetable if I can work together with fellow humans to grow them and feed the whole family? or the whole tribe. and store some for winter. and trade them for furs, which I don't have, but, this other guy who lives close by specializes in them".. etc etc - Quote:
right about the problem, fell short on solution.. totalitarians certainly hurt his cause haha. But tbh you are starting another topic...I know some basic things, but frankly I haven't read Marx... & I don't know how to answer your initial question bout the maintenance of social order without doing at least a little research. the commie thing was me grasping for a quick example.. perhaps rather than philosophy/ideology- written my marx/engel- i should have pointed to the Russian revolution itself... The way ruling class toppled; there were breaking points, etc. Although a new social order rose- probly quicker- than other "topplings" in different places×.. Bah! Quote:
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