so in the wake of thanksgiving festivities

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Originally Posted by quaker oats

You said no such thing as good and evil. Pharoahe said there is, and while there are some gray areas, there are innate human senses of morality. Your response was "might makes right" and that cultures have different concepts of morality etc. it didn't engage with his argument, you made an irrelevant point to what he was saying. If anything, you're saying that morality is culturally subjective, not that it doesn't exist. I get where you're conflating the two, but conflation is what it is

word i see what you are saying now, you just misunderstood my point. witty is on the right track

i'm saying good and evil doesnt exist. the group of people that wins sets the standards for what that society deems is good or evil. good and evil doesn't need to be a real thing for people to believe in it. if we all believe it is a good deed to give a homeless person money, that doesn't MAKE it a good deed. we just perceive it to be a good deed. and if we're the only ones perceiving it, we just believe that its right or whatever

so if isis were to conquer the west and install sharia law, they would absolutely be justified or whatever and it would be a good deed to them. whether we deem it good or evil is irrelevant, all that is relevant is what they think because we would be no more.

thats my main point in all of this. but i will take blame in being too illiterate to put my point across. i didnt even realize i was refuting any arguments as much as just stating my own viewpoint

that evil is a figment of our imaginations, and the conquerer is always right. because if you conquer someone, the only viewpoint left is your own as the conquerer