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Old 09-11-2015, 08:20 PM   #21
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Old 09-11-2015, 10:31 PM   #22
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I saw an entire documentary about that popular mechanics report.
Pretty much dispels a lot of myths. I'm not reading it at the moment; I forgot what it says about building 7 (which is indeed mysterious).. When I'm not so lazy I will see what popular mechanics or other sources say, about all the building 7 conspiracies.

But like, every other thing--

as serge said, the beams did not melt, but they became malleable enough to eventually fail.
in the doc they put jet fuel around one of these iron beams and, it doesn't fail right away, but after a certain amount of time in the extreme fire it becomes weak to failure.

the planes hit up high. once it starts collapsing it is basically in freefall. there is no such thing as "falling too fast", unless it's falling faster than gravity minus the friction, which is physically impossible and didn't happen.

the plane in PA hit the ground at such a speed and angle where things became disintegrated into smithereens.. this has been scientifically tested; it's not a mystery. Plane, luggage, bodies-- smithereens.


if this was all a huge conspiratorial inside job-- i think would have taking a LOT of people to know about it; and not not have ONE person, come forward with anything substantial, a leak, a bit of evidence.. is ridiculous
even the tiniest scandals break so fast in this country. there is no way.

The Bush admin. and Cheney were a disaster of an administration, war criminals too, and most definitely EXPLOITED 9/11 to invade Iraq... but that does Not mean 9/11 was an inside job.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence; and these conspiracies have 0 evidence other than conjecture..

The one thing I will grant is building 7 is a mysterious thing that should be looked into.
But again, unexplained things about building 7 does Not make every other crazy/debunked claim, true.
Word, probably the most agreeable thing ive read about any of this shit
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Old 09-11-2015, 10:39 PM   #23
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I saw an entire documentary about that popular mechanics report.
Pretty much dispels a lot of myths. I'm not reading it at the moment; I forgot what it says about building 7 (which is indeed mysterious).. When I'm not so lazy I will see what popular mechanics or other sources say, about all the building 7 conspiracies.

But like, every other thing--

as serge said, the beams did not melt, but they became malleable enough to eventually fail.
in the doc they put jet fuel around one of these iron beams and, it doesn't fail right away, but after a certain amount of time in the extreme fire it becomes weak to failure.

the planes hit up high. once it starts collapsing it is basically in freefall. there is no such thing as "falling too fast", unless it's falling faster than gravity minus the friction, which is physically impossible and didn't happen.

the plane in PA hit the ground at such a speed and angle where things became disintegrated into smithereens.. this has been scientifically tested; it's not a mystery. Plane, luggage, bodies-- smithereens.


if this was all a huge conspiratorial inside job-- i think would have taking a LOT of people to know about it; and not not have ONE person, come forward with anything substantial, a leak, a bit of evidence.. is ridiculous
even the tiniest scandals break so fast in this country. there is no way.

The Bush admin. and Cheney were a disaster of an administration, war criminals too, and most definitely EXPLOITED 9/11 to invade Iraq... but that does Not mean 9/11 was an inside job.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence; and these conspiracies have 0 evidence other than conjecture..

The one thing I will grant is building 7 is a mysterious thing that should be looked into.
But again, unexplained things about building 7 does Not make every other crazy/debunked claim, true.
Tower 7 was basically the result of tons of debris falling and a massive fire breaking out, combined with how the building itself was built.
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Thanks @YDK.
Yikes couple bad typos but you get the drift.. But it was mostly from the documentary I was just re-iterating
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Ok, but even a lot of debris, that's a pretty "new-looking" building. How freakin shoddy of an an engineering job is it that debris could cause the thing to collapse in such a manner?
Again, I will have to look more into it... but thanks for posting that Popular Mechanics.. it's all I could think about as I read the thread, and then you saved me the time of having to find it.
Tons upon tons upon tons of debris. The building caught fire while debris kept landing on it. This is why fires get put out in buildings lol. They collapse if you don't.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Afb7eUHr64U
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Yeah that building is "in trouble". Some video evidence of the fire. no one seems to talk about that vid first I've seen it.
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once it starts collapsing it is basically in freefall.
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freefall does not occur through the path of most resistance, unless ALL support beams were severed simultaneously.
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freefall does not occur through the path of most resistance, unless ALL support beams were severed simultaneously.
you're right.. My bad. Freefall did not happen right away... but it failed near the top, and accelerated towards free fall, until it hit it.
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IMO, based on vids of the fire, and Eng's cool video clip loop, building 7 structure/supports seems to have "failed" more towards the middle of the building... and speeds up to freefall more quickly.

(i used the words "cool" and "speeds" loosely there,but u know what i mean)
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Yeah that building is "in trouble". Some video evidence of the fire. no one seems to talk about that vid first I've seen it.
Because it doesn't fit their narrative lol.
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