Bernie Sanders is the Antichrist!

[Witty]

OBAMA IS NOT A SOCIALIST.

jesus lol

The closest he gets is a social democrat but he doesn't even really fit that title either

He created the stimulus program which saw CORPORATE America's income and profits levels go higher than ever.

Obamacare has a tiny element of socialism to it, but much less than previous republican plans. The NHS is socialist (and a Godsend), Obamacare is a regulated free market, it didn't give handouts to people who don't work as hard as others, as I'm sure is what you believe, subsidies only apply to those with incomes between 100% and 400% of the Federal Poverty Level, which means they are working, and paying taxes...contributing just as much as you.

America has always had a capitalist economy mixed with elements of socialism, Obama has done literally nothing to change that in any way, and if anything, what he has done leans towards the capitalist ideology. He has made LESS regulations than President Bush. Obama has never called for the end of private property rights. He has not made unions mandatory, they are VOLUNTARY. He really hasn't done much of anything socialist at all. All the socialist programs were there before him as far as I can tell. And you are not a fan of extra socialist aspects being added? How do you know? Which do you particularly oppose? What are the extra socialist aspect being suggested that you do not like?

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Originally Posted by Witty

OBAMA IS NOT A SOCIALIST.

jesus lol

The closest he gets is a social democrat but he doesn't even really fit that title either

He created the stimulus program which saw CORPORATE America's income and profits levels go higher than ever.

Obamacare has a tiny element of socialism to it, but much less than previous republican plans. The NHS is socialist (and a Godsend), Obamacare is a regulated free market, it didn't give handouts to people who don't work as hard as others, as I'm sure is what you believe, subsidies only apply to those with incomes between 100% and 400% of the Federal Poverty Level, which means they are working, and paying taxes...contributing just as much as you.

America has always had a capitalist economy mixed with elements of socialism, Obama has done literally nothing to change that in any way, and if anything, what he has done leans towards the capitalist ideology. He has made LESS regulations than President Bush. Obama has never called for the end of private property rights. He has not made unions mandatory, they are VOLUNTARY. He really hasn't done much of anything socialist at all. All the socialist programs were there before him as far as I can tell. And you are not a fan of extra socialist aspects being added? How do you know? Which do you particularly oppose? What are the extra socialist aspect being suggested that you do not like?

any and all of them that require any american to pay more taxes. for example bernies plan for "free college" it isn't free. taxpayers pay for it.

i'd be ok with that socialist nonsense if they took it out of the ridiculous amount of money all americans are already taxed. fuck MORE TAXES. they get enough.

OBAMACARE FORCES ALL AMERICANS TO PAY FOR HEALTH INSURANCE. you can call it a free market all you want, but its not a free market you dummy. the rich pay for the poor. i tried signing up for it to avoid the fees, my 180 dollar a month CHEAPEST I COULD FIND health coverage i signed up for, had me paying 10 dollars a month. who paid the other 170? god? of course not. everyones tax money did.

so while i was paying for this health coverage guess what. i have a health crisis, am admitted to the ER, my health coverage did enough to get them to admit me and fix the problem, but then i get billed the entirety of my checks because some "other forms" never got filled out because of obamas shit health care site. i was never mailed more forms or notified i didnt fill enough shit out. i filled everything out. so i never had health coverage.

so i had to PAY A FINE TO THE GOVERNMENT because i didnt CORRECTLY PURCHASE HEALTHCARE I WAS BEING FORCED BY THE GOVERNMENT TO PURCHASE. but they had no problem collecting the measley 10 bucks a month for my make believe health coverage.

now i have 16 thousand dollars of medical bills i'm paying off at 5 dollars a month, when income tax time comes i'll get nothing back, and HAVE TO PAY A BIGGER FINE because it will be my second year in a row without healthcare

thanks obama.

so go on about how its a free market and not a redistribution of wealth and other nonsense.