post in this thread if you believe God is real

[Witty]

I would need to see evidence of God's existence.

I haven't, so to say I believed in any kind of God or anything supernatural would be illogical as I have no basis for that belief.

[Junto]

Originally Posted by Witty

I would need to see evidence of God's existence.

I haven't, so to say I believed in any kind of God or anything supernatural would be illogical as I have no basis for that belief.

but to say you believe there ISN'T any kind of God follows those same premises right?

@Victor.

fractals, Fibonacci sequence, & sacred geometry

are you familiar with any of these? You might like that stuff too

[Witty]

Originally Posted by Junto

but to say you believe there ISN'T any kind of God follows those same premises right?

@Victor.
are you familiar with any of these? You might like that stuff too

You can never say it with complete certainty, but you can say the same thing about the Loch Ness Monster or the Easter Rabbit.

[Junto]

Originally Posted by Witty

You can never say it with complete certainty, but you can say the same thing about the Loch Ness Monster or the Easter Rabbit.

well

You do know that there are things beyond your knowledge...
And there are frequencies you can't hear that other animals can.
Waves around you that you can't tune into or interpret, but use a radio to...

Loch Ness monster isn't the worst idea but Easter Rabbit is a false equivalence
Parents tell their children this to surprise them wit candy they buy. Myth busted.
Physics tells you that gravity is why you're stuck to the ground...
but why do large masses attract, and not repel? & where is this the case, everywhere in the existence of anything? How large is that? Truly infinite? Then what governs these, or those, laws of physics?

you have 'self awareness'. Most animals are theorized not to...
but in popular scientific theory some chimps and a few other species do.
Even have IQs in the 30s and higher, where their capacities surpass 'retarded' humans
So when we look at chimps, we haven't created them, but we may directly affect their lives without them knowing how or why
Maybe everything is working under dictates that just 'are'?
but maybe we aren't even comparable to chimps when if we compared from another IQ / self-awareness 'level' up

[Witty]

Originally Posted by Junto

well

You do know that there are things beyond your knowledge...
And there are frequencies you can't hear that other animals can.
Waves around you that you can't tune into or interpret, but use a radio to...

Loch Ness monster isn't the worst idea but Easter Rabbit is a false equivalence
Parents tell their children this to surprise them wit candy they buy. Myth busted.
Physics tells you that gravity is why you're stuck to the ground...
but why do large masses attract, and not repel? & where is this the case, everywhere in the existence of anything? How large is that? Truly infinite? Then what governs these, or those, laws of physics?

you have 'self awareness'. Most animals are theorized not to...
but in popular scientific theory some chimps and a few other species do.
Even have IQs in the 30s and higher, where their capacities surpass 'retarded' humans
So when we look at chimps, we haven't created them, but we may directly affect their lives without them knowing how or why
Maybe everything is working under dictates that just 'are'?
but maybe we aren't even comparable to chimps when if we compared from another IQ / self-awareness 'level' up

I understand all of that...but that is still not evidence of a creator. My comparison to the easter rabbit was legit...there is no evidence for it either. As far as the evidence for god goes...it also may as well be a story people tell each other to make them behave a certain way.


I completely accept there are things beyond my understanding...I have never claimed there is not, but that is no reason to jump to the conclusion that it was put here by a supernatural force. As I said, if there is, I haven't seen evidence of it...and until I do, I can not believe it. Surely that is just logical?

[Useless]

Originally Posted by Witty

I would need to see evidence of God's existence.

I haven't, so to say I believed in any kind of God or anything supernatural would be illogical as I have no basis for that belief.

The universe and the human species = proof of god's existence imo.

But to each his own. I don't judge people based on their beliefs (as long as their not crazy or violent) and I appreciate ppl who are intelligent enough to not judge me based on mine.

[Witty]

Originally Posted by Useless

The universe and the human species = proof of god's existence imo.

But to each his own. I don't judge people based on their beliefs (as long as their not crazy or violent) and I appreciate ppl who are intelligent enough to not judge me based on mine.

I don't judge either, unless you believe things like the earth is only a few thousand years old, then i judge you as an idiot, but idc what people choose to believe, but I don't see how the universe or humans can be given as evidence of God's existence...for that, you need clear proof it was all made by a creator, otherwise literally any option I can come up with has as much basis as the notion of an intelligent creator, that being none.