it's 9/11 here today. whats it like stateside nowadays where the towers were? (Profit thinks The Blueprint is more important than 9/11 and ruins yet another thread)

[Vulgar]

Originally Posted by Diode

Truly rich/old money people today don't need cloak and dagger. They have no threat from those beneath them.

lol

I do agree with your second statement.

[sral]

Originally Posted by Vulgar

lol

Bingo. Care to express your brilliant perspective on why it's 'dumb'? The rest of the video is irrelevant. I have tunnel vision focused on that tiny aspect.

I still don't get it?

[Vulgar]

Originally Posted by Diode

No, i meant underestimating. All of this nonsense was driven by their egos - not grounded in reality in any way whatsoever. Holding influence and creating a secret cabal that controls all world events "because they're rich!" are two completely different things. What's your address, I'd like to mail you one of these:

Are you saying that because they have large ego's that their influence over the world isn't grounded in reality? Well, that depends on your interpretation of reality, because Planet Earth as it is today is directly influenced by them. There is a difference between being rich and being an engineer of the present and the future. No offense, but you're a n00b on this subject who brings up good foundational points to refute the speculation - which, now that I'm older and a little wiser, can understand.

I'm not talking about "controlling all world events."

Answer the first paragraph of my last post if you want to continue this discussion, otherwise it'll just be funny pics and GIF's until Pancake intervenes or something.

[Diode]

Originally Posted by Vulgar

Are you saying that because they have large ego's that their influence over the world isn't grounded in reality? Well, that depends on your interpretation of reality, because Planet Earth as it is today is directly influenced by them. There is a difference between being rich and being an engineer of the present and the future. No offense, but you're a n00b on this subject who brings up good foundational points to refute the speculation - which, now that I'm older and a little wiser, can understand.

I'm not talking about "controlling all world events."

Answer the first paragraph of my last post if you want to continue this discussion, otherwise it'll just be funny pics and GIF's until Pancake intervenes or something.

i double majored in history and political science from a very well respected school in both of those fields.

you minored in youtube conspiracy theories, prisonplanet.com, and are working on a phd in alex jones infowars.

but i'm a noob.

lolk.

[Vulgar]

Good response, and I never said that I was smarter than you, but I'm more oriented with this area. You should stop dodging this and I'll stop calling you a n00b:

Originally Posted by Vulgar

Show me where the Rockefellers don't have influence over the world's elite economic, political and social institutions and I MIGHT take what you say seriously.

[Badweather]

Originally Posted by Profit

If 9/11 is such an important day why ain't Macys having a 9/11 sale?

i laughed, but immediately felt horrible afterwards

[Diode]

Originally Posted by Vulgar

Good response, and I never said that I was smarter than you, but I'm more oriented with this area. You should stop dodging this and I'll stop calling you a n00b:

I never said that old money doesn't have power or influence. I said they aren't secret cabals planning the overthrow of governments, creating genocidal plots for funsies, and orchestrating terrorist attacks on their own soil in order to gain something they already have. If a corporation leverages political connections to obtain a financially beneficial outcome, that's not a conspiracy. It's plain old fashioned greed. It doesn't go "higher" to some "secret order".

Further, what I stated that not indicate that I am more intelligent, but that you are the one who has no experience discussing this subject. You have nothing outside of internet forums and youtube videos. You have no frame of reference, no sense of history, and are blinded by a foregone conclusion in your mind that exists as a sole way to cope with the fact that life is unfair, the world is mean, and some people have more than others.

All of those things are possible (and reality). Conspiracies to explain tragedy are not. They are 99% implausible mental gymnastics for those who can't accept the world for what it is. Every now and then 1% of it has a nugget of truth and you all cling to it desperately hoping to reveal the wizard behind the curtain.

But that moment isn't coming, friend.

Human depravity is base and simple and does not require explanation.

Sorry to burst your bubble.

[Vulgar]

Great stuff. I applaud you, for you would strike down lesser theorists. However, I'm going to make my views as concrete as possible, based around what you've presented:

I said they aren't secret cabals planning the overthrow of governments,

You're right, I don't know what the plan truly is.

creating genocidal plots for funsies,

You're right, I don't know what the plan truly is.

and orchestrating terrorist attacks on their own soil in order to gain something they already have.

You bring up a good point and you're right, I don't know what the plan truly is.

I fully believe that there is a "great idea" at work here, and it goes beyond your flimsy degree. The "new world order" as it is dubbed is 100% real. Do I know the answers or pretend to try to explain the plot, the plan, the method, the ideology? No, but I do know that there is something at work. I'll break down the best proof I've found in a thread, and you can judge for yourself, Dr. Diode.

[Diode]

Originally Posted by Vulgar

Great stuff. I applaud you, for you would strike down lesser theorists. However, I'm going to make my views as concrete as possible, based around what you've presented:



You're right, I don't know what the plan truly is.



You're right, I don't know what the plan truly is.



You bring up a good point and you're right, I don't know what the plan truly is.

I fully believe that there is a "great idea" at work here, and it goes beyond your flimsy degree. The "new world order" as it is dubbed is 100% real. Do I know the answers or pretend to try to explain the plot, the plan, the method, the ideology? No, but I do know that there is something at work. I'll break down the best proof I've found in a thread, and you can judge for yourself, Dr. Diode.

"I don't know what the plan truly is."

So you're convinced there's some big club with bad intentions but you have no idea what they're up to. However, since you've come to this conclusion, you've sought any type of evidence that will bolster it. You reached your conclusion before examining all available evidence. You're working backwards.

Of course your "evidence" will fit your agenda.

You should be a reporter. You'll go far in this day and age.

[Vulgar]

It's quite a lot of evidence to compile.

What I meant to say was that nobody really knows what they're talking about. The "conspiracy movement" is full of small minded people speculating and generalizing to the fullest extent. I'm not that kind of a person. I've already proved to you that Mr. Rockefeller has intentions to try and start a world government. In the video, Vernon Jordan confirms it by saying "but that doesn't mean that everybody agrees with that." Sinister? I have no clue. An actual desire to implement it? Confirmed.

So what bogus evidence am I using self confirmation bias for again.....?

[Certain]

Vulgar, your belief in your own ignorance sounds quite a bit like those with convictions that there must be a God.

It's easier to prove something is than to prove it isn't, which is why we can't prove there is no God (or New World Order) but we can prove there is gravity (or government).

[Vulgar]

In 5 years, that video (aka that small portion) is the best piece of evidence I've come across. If that makes me ignorant, so be it.

[Certain]

Originally Posted by Vulgar

In 5 years, that video (aka that small portion) is the best piece of evidence I've come across. If that makes me ignorant, so be it.

My point isn't that you're ignorant. But you seem to be using that almost as justification and proof of your point, as though the fact that you don't know about a secret society or underground power structure proves that it's secret and underground. You're ignoring the Occam's razor answer.

[Vulgar]

Originally Posted by Certain

My point isn't that you're ignorant. But you seem to be using that almost as justification and proof of your point, as though the fact that you don't know about a secret society or underground power structure proves that it's secret and underground. You're ignoring the Occam's razor answer.

No, I'm dismissing his predispositions about what conspiracy theorists say or think because I'm convinced that I'm of another breed. Showing Diode my vulnerabilities might open him up (and others too) to hear about what actually made me believe this strange stuff.

[sral]

I'm listening

[big baby]

itt: vulgar ruins chances of hof lmao idiyote

[Sharp]

I'm definitely not getting into this conversation

But on the shuttle bus between the parking lot and campus today I heard a radio station suggest prizes for the 9th and 11th callers

Shit was fucked

[Fig]

GOVERNMENT

[veritas]

Originally Posted by Diode

i double majored in history and political science from a very well respected school in both of those fields.

you minored in youtube conspiracy theories, prisonplanet.com, and are working on a phd in alex jones infowars.

but i'm a noob.

lolk.

EGO.

[Diode]

Originally Posted by The Mind Assassin

EGO.

READING COMPREHENSION