the Kajieme Powell shooting video

[Greed]

The guns were drawn cause of the unidentified item in the pocket.

I mean, fuck the police and everything, but they were right to jump out on dude like that. He was at the time ACTUALLY dangerous. Not to us cause we saw five minutes prior, but they only saw their suspect with his hands in his pockets, not responding to commands to knock that shit off.

He got too close. Screaming shoot me and shit. Thats the talk of a man with nothing left to live for. Thats dangerous.

This aint a michael brown type case. Wasn't no hands up situation. This aint the movies. You cant rush the police in an emotional outburst like that fuck around and get smoked.

My generation is now the police force. And if they think like me its my life over theirs. Not a black or white issue, or an over militarized police thing. THIS nigga didnt know when to quit.

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yea i mean that honestly sums it up

you are innocent until proven guilty. you are also alive until you approach cops with a knife yelling shoot me. he couldve proved his innocence by obeying the law, instead he chose death by cop

this is very simple, cut and dry.

oats, how would you feel if the store owner pulled out a pistol and shot him dead in the store? would he be in the wrong? his life was threatened in exchange for 2 SODAS. then the guy posts up outside his store while he calls police, knowing the police will come, when they get there he's going towards them with his hand in his pocket yelling shoot me. the police were prepared for an armed suspect, and the armed suspect was hostile. threat eliminated. book em

[oats]

If the man pulled a knife on the store owner and the owner shot him then and there, WAY different situation. Again, police are public servants. The store owner has a right to protect himself and his store. Police rolled up on the offensive. They have to show restraint that the store owner does not have to. That is completely different.

Again, I say this over and over - dude was an idiot. But there is a deeper issue than his idiocy. Was he acting like that because he was a crazy black guy? Or is there something else charging this type of behavior? You guys are focusing on a tree and missing the rest if the forest. I have no intention repeating myself anymore. Just be aware of what you are really supporting when you say "the police did nothing wrong." If you think "it's them vs. Us" is appropriate mentality for police, please don't weigh in on these issues, because you don't understand what a police officer's job is.

[Objective]

Originally Posted by Drunken Master

As far as why they didn't shoot him in the leg, I think that's against protocol. I think leg shots are legally considered to be inhumane.

Lmfao, ''leg shots inhumane'' but killing isn't? I don't know about y'all, but the U.S. police is on some third world country level.

Killing a guy because he is wielding a knife... No warning shots, nothing besides ''BACK OFF I'LL SHOOT''? Dude might be an idiot but doing what they did is laughable and straight up grade F police work. I mean, if that shit had happened over here the cops would have tried to calm him down and cough him, if it didn't work and he brings forth a knife they'd yell people to back off and 1 of the officers would go in circles to shield people away from him and end up having an officer on both sides. If he tried to launch at someone they'd narrow him down before he got to them. Mainly; keep him at a distance, call back-up and let a dog handle the business. And what about the taser you got over there? This is just fucked up...

No reason to kill/shoot the guy in this situation. Those people suck and should be discharged. I mean, serve and protect goes ways, the cops are there to protect the citizens as good as they can. Last time I checked criminals are citizens too.

[Greed]

If the world was a place where you could discuss feelings and get results we wouldn't need police we would need street counselors. Thugs, gang bangers, shit even serial killers gonna stop when the police show up, or you getting killed.

Only people who dont are planning to shoot their way out of the situation.

Come on man I cant fund your campaign against the police for this video. There are real injustices that could use your support.

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Originally Posted by oats

If the man pulled a knife on the store owner and the owner shot him then and there, WAY different situation. Again, police are public servants. The store owner has a right to protect himself and his store. Police rolled up on the offensive. They have to show restraint that the store owner does not have to. That is completely different.

Again, I say this over and over - dude was an idiot. But there is a deeper issue than his idiocy. Was he acting like that because he was a crazy black guy? Or is there something else charging this type of behavior? You guys are focusing on a tree and missing the rest if the forest. I have no intention repeating myself anymore. Just be aware of what you are really supporting when you say "the police did nothing wrong." If you think "it's them vs. Us" is appropriate mentality for police, please don't weigh in on these issues, because you don't understand what a police officer's job is.

"it's them vs. us" isn't the appropriate mentality, when you are thinking the "us" is ONLY the police.

the police are an extension of the people. it is them vs. us. them being criminals. us being law abiding citizens and the police force of PEACE officers. he disturbed the peace and threatened the life of one person for sure, and then threatened the lives of 2 police officers with the intent of getting shot by cops.

no one is missing your point, btw. your point is irrelevant to the outcome of this video.

if you are trying to say the events in ferguson motivated him to do this, then i assume you think that those same events justify this mans actions, and you are wrong.

michael brown being killed wasnt these two officers fault. they have the right to protect themselves as well. if he wanted to take a stand and be in the news for being shot he got what he wanted.

what do you think should happen to the officers?

[oats]

Nobody is campaigning against police, greed. And to lump a dude who stole two sodas from a convenience store in with thugs and serial killers is ridiculous.

[oats]

Uh oh, that is not my point. My very first post in here was about why I think these things are happening. The outcome of the video is very relevant to the real issues here: poverty, systemic disenfranchisement of minorities and racism in police force, and over militarized culture. Yes, it is no coincidence that this happened 4 miles away from mike brown shooting, and that he was yelling "shoot me." The mike brown situation, as well as this man's behavior, are correlated symptoms of the above mentioned issues.

Defending yourself is different from being trigger happy. This was clearly trigger happy.

I think the officers should be reprimanded, taken through sensitivity training and protocol, and suspended temporarily. When they come back, they will have a period of the more menial police work like traffic shit.

[oats]

Uh oh, that is not my point. My very first post in here was about why I think these things are happening. The outcome of the video is very relevant to the real issues here: poverty, systemic disenfranchisement of minorities and racism in police force, and over militarized culture. Yes, it is no coincidence that this happened 4 miles away from mike brown shooting, and that he was yelling "shoot me." The mike brown situation, as well as this man's behavior, are correlated symptoms of the above mentioned issues.

Defending yourself is different from being trigger happy. This was clearly trigger happy.

I think the officers should be reprimanded, taken through sensitivity training and protocol, and suspended temporarily. When they come back, they will have a period of the more menial police work like traffic shit.

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we just gotta agree to disagree.

i see them doing no wrong. watch the video. an armed hostile man is telling people to get away from him. "you know my instagram and facebook im tired of this" then police pull up. they tell him to take his hands out of his pockets. he did. with a knife in one hand. he walks up and climbs over that wall, moving parallel. they tell him to drop the knife, repeatedly. after climbing over that little wall he was moving towards them. they gave him every opportunity, he was armed and threatening them.

i don't understand how anyone watching that expects the cops to circle around him and run away from him while he is brandishing a weapon until they can calm the situation

the situation is what it is because of the suspect.

i just realized thats probably the tenth time i said exactly the same thing in a slightly different way.

so this will be my last post on the matter.

just know where im sitting, watching that video i see nothing wrong with the polices actions, at all. if you do i disagree with you so you are therefore wrong since i am always right.

[oats]

Originally Posted by uh-oh

we just gotta agree to disagree.

I DONT AGREE TO THAT

[oats]

Nah but forreal uh oh, you got a fundamentally incorrect understanding of what a policeman's job is. Don't worry you're still top 5 boarders easy.

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no i have a realistic understanding of what actual police officers ARE

not a wishful thinking view of what they COULD be.

[oats]

What they ARE is the problem. What they SHOULD BE is the solution. YOULL SEE

Originally Posted by big baby

aiight so when someone is threatening you and your partners life (seadad cause u guys are gay together) you can taze the dude with knife, just bring out your handy tazor and taze him STFU WIGGER BITCH.

Um kids yeah that is what u do

Here is in aus many years ago before tazers were introduced some 16 yr old charged at police with a knife in each hand, they shot him dead for obv reasons.
Police shoot to kill not to wound. Shooting a knee (half a foot target) sprinting at you zig zaging etc is alot harder to hit then a 3 foot torso. So what would u go for in that situation? They shouldve just pulled tazers asap once out of the car and tazered him tho.

edit: @oats a policemans job is to protect. that includes his own life, which the kid was charging at him attempting to take. what do you think he was gonna tickle his scrotom with it? cmon now.

[Objective]

Originally Posted by uh-oh

just know where im sitting, watching that video i see nothing wrong with the polices actions, at all.

So... You don't think they could have shot his foot, tazed him or something instead of killing the man? That way the shot would be directed towards the ground in case they'd miss the shot as well and given him a fair chance of survival.

Originally Posted by Objective

So... You don't think they could have shot his foot, tazed him or something instead of killing the man? That way the shot would be directed towards the ground in case they'd miss the shot as well and given him a fair chance of survival.

shot his foot? r u srs?

u have obv never been charged before.

let me tell u what happens.

adrenaline dump, natural instincts kick in.

shooting the biggest part of the target is much easier than too shoot a fucking foot which is sprinting and moving at what 20km an hour?

these rnt army recon marksmen these are police, they shoot the body, end of story.

[Objective]

Originally Posted by Paradox

shot his foot? r u srs?

u have obv never been charged before.

let me tell u what happens.

adrenaline dump, natural instincts kick in.

shooting the biggest part of the target is much easier than too shoot a fucking foot which is sprinting and moving at what 20km an hour?

these rnt army recon marksmen these are police, they shoot the body, end of story.

Taze the motherfucker then. Don't tell me they ain't effective.

And your assumptions are wrong. I've been charged at with a knife before, a metal pipe once, been jumped and all that shit. Adrenaline pumps, natural instincts kick in for sure. I've never had a gun on me though. If I had I'd probably shoot the dude, but that's mainly because I'm not trained for situations like these. That's what cops are supposed to be for, assess the situation and handle it in the best possible way. Going for the gun and drop someone dead isn't handling it in the best possible way, tazing the fucker or shoot someone in the legs or something is. The first course of action shouldn't be to kill someone.

It's the officers duty to serve and protect all citizens, the court should stand for the rest unless there's a viable reason to do something else. In this situation it could have been handled WAY better. Had he charged at the guy for real I'd understand the shots being fired, but yo, he's barely moving back'n'forth. I'd go backwards, behind the police car or something and aim at the fucker and yell at people to move the fuck away. It would definitely have given enough time for the rest of the cops to arrive as they weren't that far behind.

I guess you disagree, so we'll just have to agree on having different views. I think this could have been handled better, you don't.

[oats]

lol I love how the narrative has become "he charged them with a knife!" no, he didn't. Even if he did, @Paradox (sorry about that killer dachshund line btw, couldn't resist), the PO's should have maintained a better distance. anyway, done with this discussion. It's an important one to have though.

Originally Posted by Objective

Taze the motherfucker then. Don't tell me they ain't effective.

And your assumptions are wrong. I've been charged at with a knife before, a metal pipe once, been jumped and all that shit. Adrenaline pumps, natural instincts kick in for sure. I've never had a gun on me though. If I had I'd probably shoot the dude, but that's mainly because I'm not trained for situations like these. That's what cops are supposed to be for, assess the situation and handle it in the best possible way. Going for the gun and drop someone dead isn't handling it in the best possible way, tazing the fucker or shoot someone in the legs or something is. The first course of action shouldn't be to kill someone.

It's the officers duty to serve and protect all citizens, the court should stand for the rest unless there's a viable reason to do something else. In this situation it could have been handled WAY better. Had he charged at the guy for real I'd understand the shots being fired, but yo, he's barely moving back'n'forth. I'd go backwards, behind the police car or something and aim at the fucker and yell at people to move the fuck away. It would definitely have given enough time for the rest of the cops to arrive as they weren't that far behind.

I guess you disagree, so we'll just have to agree on having different views. I think this could have been handled better, you don't.

Originally Posted by oats

lol I love how the narrative has become "he charged them with a knife!" no, he didn't. Even if he did, @Paradox (sorry about that killer dachshund line btw, couldn't resist), the PO's should have maintained a better distance. anyway, done with this discussion. It's an important one to have though.

sorry guys, i watched the video, i wrote that before watching. defs shouldve been tasered and not shot. i mean his top speed there was a brisk walk. lol murika!