the Kajieme Powell shooting video

[dead man]

released yesterday



http://www.newsweek.com/new-video-po...emerges-266041

not to mention, this is in ST. LOUIS

kid was half their size and armed with a knife (allegedly)

over 2 energy drinks.

i don't even know anymore..

[Drunken Master]

Knife or not, if the police yell "put the knife down" multiple times and you keep moving towards them yelling "shoot me"... what do you think is going to happen?

Shitty situation

[StarFaggot]

To shoot him that many times is excessive then to handcuff a corpse is ridiculous.

[Ghost1]

Oh lawd

This gon spark up the race war again

I feel like we had reached a small bit of common ground since treyvon here on nc...this will not bode well


Couldnt they have just knee capped the kid tho? Iunno seemed pretty brutal.

[StarFaggot]

Originally Posted by Bags

Oh lawd

This gon spark up the race war again

I feel like we had reached a small bit of common ground since treyvon here on nc...this will not bode well


Couldnt they have just knee capped the kid tho? Iunno seemed pretty brutal.

A race war on netcees? Lol never. 95% white male of which 73% wants to be black.

[Drunken Master]

I truly don't want to start a debate.

Handcuffing is protocol. It's cold, it's fucked up, but they legally had to. As they can't "pronounce him dead" so they have to act as if he isn't. I'm sure they didn't like doing it either.

And the shots were in rapid succession, that lasted all of two seconds. That's pure adrenalin. A knee jerk reaction because if you watch careful he makes a quick lunge motion towards them.


I'm by no means defending them. But I do think this situation was pretty instigated.


As far as why they didn't shoot him in the leg, I think that's against protocol. I think leg shots are legally considered to be inhumane. If they're going to shoot their weapon I believe they're supposed to shoot to kill. I could be wrong about this though.

[Ghost1]

Ehhhh those percentages seem high

I think most of us have outgrown our wigger stages

[dead man]

the knee cap was my exact thought.

never been through police training but i was under the impression that officers were trained to use non-deadly force to neutralize violent suspects if ever possible.

[Greed]

If they shoot at all they going for the kill. No point in letting him live to sue the force and get people fired.

This I understand.

Its how quick they are to shoot is the unforgivable issue

[Ghost1]

Yea....but that logic is flawed....i mean his family will still pursue litigation against the force obv....and likely more agressively since he was killed

[Greed]

Just watched.

Wtf was that nigga doing.

[Drunken Master]

Originally Posted by dead man

the knee cap was my exact thought.

never been through police training but i was under the impression that officers were trained to use non-deadly force to neutralize violent suspects if ever possible.

They are. Lethal force is supposed to be a last resort.

I want to be clear that I'm not trying to say that the cops were right in this situation. I wasn't there. I do think they acted within their "rights" just based off the video though.

They had their guns out almost immediately upon exiting their cars.


This could be because they're trigger happy.

However it could have also been because whoever called them there had already seen the knife. Or maybe it's a neighborhood with a lot of gun violence. Maybe whoever called the police exaggerated the situation and the severity putting the police on alert.

Then when the police arrived he had his hand in his pocket and wouldn't remove it (yelling at them to shoot him) and then lunged.

I know watching the video quite a bit of time passed, but those situations are much harder to gauge if you're right there in the thick of it. They don't get to pause it and see if there is a better option. They went from yelling, to (in their minds) defending themselves. Didn't really have time to swap out for the tazer.

[Ghost1]

The small excerpt i read said that the store clerk an the store accross tye street reported the kid had a knife

Its the same debate really tho as it ever is in these scenarios....

The police are granted their position to make split decisions involving life or death situations vs the police over reacted

Its not much to say that hasnt been said before

[Geno]

They could of tazed him. Didnt have to kill that man. Thats a fucked up vodeo.

[big baby]

Originally Posted by dead man

the knee cap was my exact thought.

never been through police training but i was under the impression that officers were trained to use non-deadly force to neutralize violent suspects if ever possible.

he supposedly had a weapon. Nigga this aint OSAMA BIN LADEN FOUND DEAD OR ALIVE NGIGA THIS IS SHOOT THE BITCH WITH A WEAPON.

Knee caps? Motherfucker just kill me.

[Certain]

Cops are not intelligent or well-liked people growing up. That's why they become cops. They desperately want power to help overcome their social ineptitudes. Those are the most dangerous people to give power to.

No VERITAS.

[dead man]

some people are saying suicide by cop.

and it's obvious his intentions were to provoke the police. most likely as a result of the Michael Brown situation considering where this happened. clearly a bad move.

i'm not anti-cop whatsoever. i know plenty of good policeman personally. but these guys fucked up. should not have killed the kid. looks bad from almost every angle. financial, political, PR, etc.

[big baby]

Originally Posted by Genocide

They could of tazed him. Didnt have to kill that man. Thats a fucked up vodeo.

aiight so when someone is threatening you and your partners life (seadad cause u guys are gay together) you can taze the dude with knife, just bring out your handy tazor and taze him STFU WIGGER BITCH.

[Greed]

Called his homie started stuntin and shit.

Got hella close. Movin lightweight quick.

Yeah police quick to shoot

But

He was doing too much.

[Zen]

Originally Posted by Drunken Master

They are. Lethal force is supposed to be a last resort.

I want to be clear that I'm not trying to say that the cops were right in this situation. I wasn't there. I do think they acted within their "rights" just based off the video though.

They had their guns out almost immediately upon exiting their cars.


This could be because they're trigger happy.

However it could have also been because whoever called them there had already seen the knife. Or maybe it's a neighborhood with a lot of gun violence. Maybe whoever called the police exaggerated the situation and the severity putting the police on alert.

Then when the police arrived he had his hand in his pocket and wouldn't remove it (yelling at them to shoot him) and then lunged.

I know watching the video quite a bit of time passed, but those situations are much harder to gauge if you're right there in the thick of it. They don't get to pause it and see if there is a better option. They went from yelling, to (in their minds) defending themselves. Didn't really have time to swap out for the tazer.

"As tensions continue to flare over Brown's death, many question the circumstances under which the law justifies a police officer's use of deadly force. When faced with a perceived threat, why don't officers shoot to wound rather than shoot to kill?

The reason, according to law enforcement officials and experts on police accountability, is simple: Officers have long been trained to shoot to kill because that is the only way they say they can neutralize a threat. The idea of shooting someone in a limb is fiction.

"That's a Hollywood myth," John Firman, director of research, programs, and professional services at the International Association of Chiefs of Police, told The Huffington Post. "In all policy everywhere on force in any law enforcement agency in America, the bottom line statement should read: If you feel sufficiently threatened or if lives are threatened and you feel the need that you must use lethal force, then you must take out the suspect."

Firman said shooting to wound is impractical because "the likelihood of success is low." The officer may miss the target, leaving both the police and the public at risk, he said."

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/08...-not-to-wound/