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Old 11-08-2013, 09:26 PM   #21
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@des, how did Gza have the best solo career? Liquid Swords is like the sixth best solo Wu album and the rest were just ok
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@des, how did Gza have the best solo career? Liquid Swords is like the sixth best solo Wu album and the rest were just ok
Liquid Swords is pretty widely heralded as no worse than No. 3 and often called the best. You have some strange taste.
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meth was the dopest for a long time but fell off hard


Judgement Day was an incredible album. ridiculously under rated
when did he fall off? show me some wack shit
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Liquid Swords is pretty widely heralded as no worse than No. 3 and often called the best. You have some strange taste.
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From Day One, GZA has been my favorite. No. 2 used to be Method Man, but Ghostface Killah has moved well past everyone other than GZA on my list because he's been so good in the 2000s.
I prefer Raekwon to Ghost. We agree on GZA. Dunno. Raekwon seemed better. Can't put a thumb on it.

And to answer the questions about the OP question, it's zero sum. Who's the best in your opinion. No qualifications. Just, when I say who is the best original Wu Tang Member, who's the first person that pops in your head. Everything included, nothing included, whatever.
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It's really weird to me how much praise Method Man is getting here. I've never heard anyone say he had the best solo career, even if you think he's the best on the Clan albums.
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we can all agree Only Built 4 Cuban Linx is number 1

and I think most would say that Brooklyn Zoo, Iron Man, Supreme Clientele are superior to Liquid Swords

I also like Judgement Day better but that is just my weird thing cause im obsessed with that album.


btw I have been playing Liquid Swords in my car every time I get in it for the last week re living it. good album for sure. I just prefer those I mentioned
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lol @ sixth best
mike wrecka, kill yourself immediately

they were supposed to kill my father but they didn't...
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we can all agree Only Built 4 Cuban Linx is number 1
No, we can't. Liquid Swords is my favorite album in the Wu-Tang Clan cannon, solo or group. It's my third-favorite rap album ever.

Iron Man wasn't even as good as Fishscale in my opinion, but I don't mind calling it Ghostface Killah's second best. But to call it better than Liquid Swords puts you in a minority, friend.
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I can see it but not for me. No way am I putting liq above cuban in any roster
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tell me again which songs on those albums can fuck with 4th chamber
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No, we can't. Liquid Swords is my favorite album in the Wu-Tang Clan cannon, solo or group. It's my third-favorite rap album ever.
Ok then you are in the minority

only Built 4 Cuban Linx is widely regarded as the best hip hop album of all time

only matched by 36 Chambers and Ready to Die tbh
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only Built 4 Cuban Linx is widely regarded as the best hip hop album of all time
your definition of widely regarded is askew.

ob4cl is one of my favorite rap albums.

but you're wrong in saying that it's universally accepted as better than Liquid Swords or bar none a top 3 hip hop album. that lacks perspective, and that's simply a fact.
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I think the consensus on Wu-Tang Clan albums would be something like:

1. 36 Chambers
2. Only Built 4 Cuban Linx
3. Liquid Swords
4. Supreme Clientele
5. Forever
6. Return to the 36 Chambers
7. Tical
8. Iron Man
9. Only Built 4 Cuban Linx II
10. Fishscale

And Mike Wrecka, if you're not including Illmatic, It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back or The Chronic on your list of albums widely hailed as the best ever, your list is wrong. I've seen those three on top of many more lists than Only Built 4 Cuban Linx.
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your definition of widely regarded is askew.

ob4cl is one of my favorite rap albums.

but you're wrong in saying that it's universally accepted as better than Liquid Swords or bar none a top 3 hip hop album. that lacks perspective, and that's simply a fact.
Tbh I thoufgt ob4cl was regarded as such but I dont hold it as bar none just bar wu tang
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Ok then you are in the minority

only Built 4 Cuban Linx is widely regarded as the best hip hop album of all time

only matched by 36 Chambers and Ready to Die tbh
Tbh I dont think 36 is better than cuban. Ready to die is a bettwr album but still not necessarily (imo) the end all to rap albums
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Liquid Swords is more cohesive with better lyricism. OBC4L has the best production of any rap album ever made (I've made a topic saying as such before) but it's uneven. I can listen to Liquid Swords all the way through to this day even after burning it out as a young Wigger Cake whereas if I were to listen to OB4CL now I'd skip a few tracks.
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there is no right or wrong answer

I was basing the rankings based off my own preference and the feed back I have gotten from Wu fans at the many Wu shows I have attended.

I still stand by OB4CL as widely regarded as the best Wu solo album. Supreme Clientele and Liquid Swords would be even in the hearts of the people.

I just gave my top five. I guess my opinion is wrong I didn't know that was possible
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Well, you did present it as fact.
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Liquid Swords is more cohesive with better lyricism. OBC4L has the best production of any rap album ever made (I've made a topic saying as such before) but it's uneven. I can listen to Liquid Swords all the way through to this day even after burning it out as a young Wigger Cake whereas if I were to listen to OB4CL now I'd skip a few tracks.
Cant argue production. However the lyricism on cuban is superior. My view changed after I learned how much they used metaphors and sub-meanings. Also the story factors on cuban >
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