People say Mayweather isn't that great.. let's take a look at this - Page 2

Inno · 09-23-2013, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ...the Munster

dog

first off its spelled "Gatti" and secondly,

you sure you wanna act like you know what you talkin bout, listing gatti as the third best boxer on that list like that?

I just listed them no particular order.

With that said...

Yes the only three worth a mention.

Heres a question

Who on that list comes close to the three I mentioned?

...the Nagger · 09-23-2013, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Innovator

I just listed them no particular order.

With that said...

Yes the only three worth a mention.

Heres a question

Who on that list comes close to the three I mentioned?

well first off baldimor KO'd gatti

carlos baldomir
miguel cotto
Juan manuel marquez
ricky hatton
chico corrales
zab judah

they all without doubt have a better boxing resume than gatti did

...the Nagger · 09-23-2013, 12:41 PM

I'm pretty sure castillo do too but I'm not sure off top

Kaeo Seru · 09-23-2013, 12:45 PM

Saul Alvarez - Was Picked by the public en masse to be The One to beat Money

Robert Guerrero - Is a really good fighter... when fighting anyone other than Floyd (see Andre Berto)

Miguel Cotto - Landed more punches on Floyd than ANYONE ever has (including Canelo)

Victor Ortiz - was a good prospect but definitely out of his depth

Shane Mosely - A shell of his former self although he did have a few moments of shining brilliance in this fight.. was an Elite fighter in his Prime should've retired years ago

Juan Marquez - Great fighter in 4 fights with Pac he got a Draw, a split Dec, a Maj Dec, and a KO win. but he got completely MAULED by Mayweather. (maybe becuase he came up in Weight to fight floyd??)

Ricky Hatton - was bulldozing all his opponents b4 Floyd

Oscar de la Hoya - while not in his prime still put up a great fight against Money could've been called a draw if you're a fan of ineffective body punching

Carlos Baldomir - was once a good fighter

Zab Judah - was actually beating Floyd in the early rounds but eventually Floyd made some adjustments and pulled out the win. Judah has always been a good fighter but his chin and out of ring antics have diminished him

Shamba Mitchell - Great prospect at one point. got demolished and exposed by Money

Arturo Gatti - World Class fighter. great heart great chin and was shut down by Floyd

Henry Brussles
Phillip N'Dou

Castillo (x2) - many would argue that Castillo was robbed in the Dec of thier 1st fight. that arguement dies in the 2nd. great fighter none-the-less

Jesus Chavez

Diego Corrales - an exciting fighter gave us many lay-it-all-on-the-line fight of the year bouts. got man handled by floyd

I'm not gonna deny that Floyd hand picks his fights. but Who wouldn't. I don't see any of you looking for someone you knOW you can't beat and swinging on him. at the end of the day Boxing is still a BUSINESS so he picks the fights that will bring him the most money. Canelo was picked by the Boxing fans and floyd haters to be the one to end his reign as p4p champ. but he smacked the pup around and exposed him too. Honestly even without the hand [icks i dont see anyone beating floyd. the matches would've been a lot closer like his earlier fights with Castillo and Judah. but by large he still wins.

so who do you think has what it takes to defeat Floyd? lets look at some prospects..

Danny Garcia - unbeaten young and talented. usually the underdog, always wins... BUT do you think he has the experience needed to compete with Floyd? canelo didn't and he was 42-0...

Sergio Martinez - tremendously gifted athlete... was almost KO'd by chavez jr. (lol) well past his prime coming off and an injury that would make him slower and less able to compete with a sharp in shape mayweather.

Adrien Broner - hah!

Timothy Bradley - Lets see if he can get past Marquez first

Pacman - even if he beats Brandon Rios his management wont allow him to fight mayweather.

...the Nagger · 09-23-2013, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaeo Seru

Saul Alvarez - Was Picked by the public en masse to be The One to beat Money

Robert Guerrero - Is a really good fighter... when fighting anyone other than Floyd (see Andre Berto)

Miguel Cotto - Landed more punches on Floyd than ANYONE ever has (including Canelo)

Victor Ortiz - was a good prospect but definitely out of his depth

Shane Mosely - A shell of his former self although he did have a few moments of shining brilliance in this fight.. was an Elite fighter in his Prime should've retired years ago

Juan Marquez - Great fighter in 4 fights with Pac he got a Draw, a split Dec, a Maj Dec, and a KO win. but he got completely MAULED by Mayweather. (maybe becuase he came up in Weight to fight floyd??)

Ricky Hatton - was bulldozing all his opponents b4 Floyd

Oscar de la Hoya - while not in his prime still put up a great fight against Money could've been called a draw if you're a fan of ineffective body punching

Carlos Baldomir - was once a good fighter

Zab Judah - was actually beating Floyd in the early rounds but eventually Floyd made some adjustments and pulled out the win. Judah has always been a good fighter but his chin and out of ring antics have diminished him

Shamba Mitchell - Great prospect at one point. got demolished and exposed by Money

Arturo Gatti - World Class fighter. great heart great chin and was shut down by Floyd

Henry Brussles
Phillip N'Dou

Castillo (x2) - many would argue that Castillo was robbed in the Dec of thier 1st fight. that arguement dies in the 2nd. great fighter none-the-less

Jesus Chavez

Diego Corrales - an exciting fighter gave us many lay-it-all-on-the-line fight of the year bouts. got man handled by floyd

I'm not gonna deny that Floyd hand picks his fights. but Who wouldn't. I don't see any of you looking for someone you knOW you can't beat and swinging on him. at the end of the day Boxing is still a BUSINESS so he picks the fights that will bring him the most money. Canelo was picked by the Boxing fans and floyd haters to be the one to end his reign as p4p champ. but he smacked the pup around and exposed him too. Honestly even without the hand [icks i dont see anyone beating floyd. the matches would've been a lot closer like his earlier fights with Castillo and Judah. but by large he still wins.

so who do you think has what it takes to defeat Floyd? lets look at some prospects..

Danny Garcia - unbeaten young and talented. usually the underdog, always wins... BUT do you think he has the experience needed to compete with Floyd? canelo didn't and he was 42-0...

Sergio Martinez - tremendously gifted athlete... was almost KO'd by chavez jr. (lol) well past his prime coming off and an injury that would make him slower and less able to compete with a sharp in shape mayweather.

Adrien Broner - hah!

Timothy Bradley - Lets see if he can get past Marquez first

Pacman - even if he beats Brandon Rios his management wont allow him to fight mayweather.

broner wouldn't even accept the offer if it were given to him lol

but I noticed you lacked a summary of Phillip N'dou and Jesus Chavez... you unfamiliar with them?

Witty · 09-23-2013, 01:18 PM

You know, while you are all discussing this guy, he has no idea who you are and doesn't care.

This is why I can't get so deep into shit like this, I don't care enough about what he does, or anyone, to dedicate this amount of time talking about him, he isn't sharing his money with me, why would I give a fuck?

I appreciate his talent and will watch his fights, but fuck this arguing about how great another dude may or may not be.

I don't understand most people tbh.

...the Nagger · 09-23-2013, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Witty

You know, while you are all discussing this guy, he has no idea who you are and doesn't care.

This is why I can't get so deep into shit like this, I don't care enough about what he does, or anyone, to dedicate this amount of time talking about him, he isn't sharing his money with me, why would I give a fuck?

I appreciate his talent and will watch his fights, but fuck this arguing about how great another dude may or may not be.

I don't understand most people tbh.

so you don't watch sports then

what sport does this not happen in?

Witty · 09-23-2013, 01:23 PM

I watch sports...and then when the sports are over I continue my life.

I don't give a shit about the individual...I get entertained and then when the entertainment stops, I stop giving a fuck.

I don't idolise any sports person, or musician, or anybody...because I don't see any reason to.

...the Nagger · 09-23-2013, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Witty

I watch sports...and then when the sports are over I continue my life.

I don't give a shit about the individual...I get entertained and then when the entertainment stops, I stop giving a fuck.

I don't idolise any sports person, or musician, or anybody...because I don't see any reason to.

oh ok I guess

but yea, I debate during the day about my favorite sports.

sometimes I make threads about sports to maybe come across things I never knew or recognized about said sport.

which is what I would like to happen here, but the only person that prolly has anything to say of value is metts

Chyeahhh!!! · 09-23-2013, 01:47 PM

wow @ Innovator and the three he listed. What the fluck? Diego, Cotto, Zudah? Shit Cotto alone that man was feared and revered b. He was never the same after Margarito even if Marg cheated. Artemus you sound like you grew up watching wrestling and still think that shit is real. Fluck outta here

Chyeahhh!!! · 09-23-2013, 01:48 PM

Zudah was like one of the only dudes who wobbled Mayweater. Zudah is top 5 southpaw in my book even if he is shit now lol

Witty · 09-23-2013, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ...the Munster

oh ok I guess

but yea, I debate during the day about my favorite sports.

sometimes I make threads about sports to maybe come across things I never knew or recognized about said sport.

which is what I would like to happen here, but the only person that prolly has anything to say of value is metts

Fair enough, we are all different.

It is what makes the world an interesting and dynamic place.

Do you.

...the Nagger · 09-23-2013, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Chyeahhh!!!

wow @ Innovator and the three he listed. What the fluck? Diego, Cotto, Zudah? Shit Cotto alone that man was feared and revered b. He was never the same after Margarito even if Marg cheated. Artemus you sound like you grew up watching wrestling and still think that shit is real. Fluck outta here

lol ikr dude listed possibly the worst boxer off the list as one of the only ones worth mentioning lls

Fart · 09-23-2013, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Witty

You know, while you are all discussing this guy, he has no idea who you are and doesn't care.

WHAT!!

Witty · 09-23-2013, 02:22 PM

I don't appreciate your sarcasm.

Don't do that again.

Fart · 09-23-2013, 02:23 PM

I'm not sorry.

...the Nagger · 09-23-2013, 02:24 PM

honestly, IS gatti the worst on that list??

Witty · 09-23-2013, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Artemus

I'm not sorry.

Yet.

Inno · 09-23-2013, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Chyeahhh!!!

wow @ Innovator and the three he listed. What the fluck? Diego, Cotto, Zudah? Shit Cotto alone that man was feared and revered b. He was never the same after Margarito even if Marg cheated. Artemus you sound like you grew up watching wrestling and still think that shit is real. Fluck outta here

Gatti is legend

U telling me hold cotto and judah in the same cloth as him?

Come man...all worthy opponents but those three are tops on that list...which was my point

...the Nagger · 09-23-2013, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Innovator

Gatti is legend

U telling me hold cotto and judah in the same cloth as him?

Come man...all worthy opponents but those three are tops on that list...which was my point

gatti had a legendary trilogy with micky ward

GATTI is not a legend bro

09-23-2013, 12:45 PM	#24
Kaeo Seru Keeper Of The Fresh Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Mayhem Gardens Posts: 84 Rep Power: 33	Saul Alvarez - Was Picked by the public en masse to be The One to beat Money Robert Guerrero - Is a really good fighter... when fighting anyone other than Floyd (see Andre Berto) Miguel Cotto - Landed more punches on Floyd than ANYONE ever has (including Canelo) Victor Ortiz - was a good prospect but definitely out of his depth Shane Mosely - A shell of his former self although he did have a few moments of shining brilliance in this fight.. was an Elite fighter in his Prime should've retired years ago Juan Marquez - Great fighter in 4 fights with Pac he got a Draw, a split Dec, a Maj Dec, and a KO win. but he got completely MAULED by Mayweather. (maybe becuase he came up in Weight to fight floyd??) Ricky Hatton - was bulldozing all his opponents b4 Floyd Oscar de la Hoya - while not in his prime still put up a great fight against Money could've been called a draw if you're a fan of ineffective body punching Carlos Baldomir - was once a good fighter Zab Judah - was actually beating Floyd in the early rounds but eventually Floyd made some adjustments and pulled out the win. Judah has always been a good fighter but his chin and out of ring antics have diminished him Shamba Mitchell - Great prospect at one point. got demolished and exposed by Money Arturo Gatti - World Class fighter. great heart great chin and was shut down by Floyd Henry Brussles Phillip N'Dou Castillo (x2) - many would argue that Castillo was robbed in the Dec of thier 1st fight. that arguement dies in the 2nd. great fighter none-the-less Jesus Chavez Diego Corrales - an exciting fighter gave us many lay-it-all-on-the-line fight of the year bouts. got man handled by floyd I'm not gonna deny that Floyd hand picks his fights. but Who wouldn't. I don't see any of you looking for someone you knOW you can't beat and swinging on him. at the end of the day Boxing is still a BUSINESS so he picks the fights that will bring him the most money. Canelo was picked by the Boxing fans and floyd haters to be the one to end his reign as p4p champ. but he smacked the pup around and exposed him too. Honestly even without the hand [icks i dont see anyone beating floyd. the matches would've been a lot closer like his earlier fights with Castillo and Judah. but by large he still wins. so who do you think has what it takes to defeat Floyd? lets look at some prospects.. Danny Garcia - unbeaten young and talented. usually the underdog, always wins... BUT do you think he has the experience needed to compete with Floyd? canelo didn't and he was 42-0... Sergio Martinez - tremendously gifted athlete... was almost KO'd by chavez jr. (lol) well past his prime coming off and an injury that would make him slower and less able to compete with a sharp in shape mayweather. Adrien Broner - hah! Timothy Bradley - Lets see if he can get past Marquez first Pacman - even if he beats Brandon Rios his management wont allow him to fight mayweather. __________________

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Witty Lime Life Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 16,813 Battle Record: 30-41 Accomplishments - Only Slightly Retarded Champed - Lyric Olympics - Summer Classic Rep Power: 82986458	You know, while you are all discussing this guy, he has no idea who you are and doesn't care. This is why I can't get so deep into shit like this, I don't care enough about what he does, or anyone, to dedicate this amount of time talking about him, he isn't sharing his money with me, why would I give a fuck? I appreciate his talent and will watch his fights, but fuck this arguing about how great another dude may or may not be. I don't understand most people tbh. __________________ He listens to voices inside of his mind Explicit and poisonous violent crime.

09-23-2013, 01:23 PM	#28
Witty Lime Life Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 16,813 Battle Record: 30-41 Accomplishments - Only Slightly Retarded Champed - Lyric Olympics - Summer Classic Rep Power: 82986458	I watch sports...and then when the sports are over I continue my life. I don't give a shit about the individual...I get entertained and then when the entertainment stops, I stop giving a fuck. I don't idolise any sports person, or musician, or anybody...because I don't see any reason to. __________________ He listens to voices inside of his mind Explicit and poisonous violent crime.

09-23-2013, 01:47 PM	#30
Chyeahhh!!! Saul Paul Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: remote location with a remote weapon station Posts: 6,398 Battle Record: 16-26 Rep Power: 1663348	wow @ Innovator and the three he listed. What the fluck? Diego, Cotto, Zudah? Shit Cotto alone that man was feared and revered b. He was never the same after Margarito even if Marg cheated. Artemus you sound like you grew up watching wrestling and still think that shit is real. Fluck outta here __________________ KNOW YOUR MAKER BEFORE YOU'RE MADE TO I know the ledge, his sister's a jumpoff

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Chyeahhh!!! Saul Paul Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: remote location with a remote weapon station Posts: 6,398 Battle Record: 16-26 Rep Power: 1663348	Zudah was like one of the only dudes who wobbled Mayweater. Zudah is top 5 southpaw in my book even if he is shit now lol __________________ KNOW YOUR MAKER BEFORE YOU'RE MADE TO I know the ledge, his sister's a jumpoff

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...the Nagger Junior Member Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 2,862 Battle Record: 4-4 Rep Power: 15781384	I'm pretty sure castillo do too but I'm not sure off top

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...the Nagger Junior Member Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 2,862 Battle Record: 4-4 Rep Power: 15781384	honestly, IS gatti the worst on that list??