where do you rank MANNY FRESH as a producer?

[Frank Metts]

Originally Posted by Innovator

Good looks mr porter is dope.

Was dj clue a producer? Did he produce his beats?

Warran g is another that comes to mind

Daz and dre had a lot to do with warrens success but he " produced " the whole debut album

[uh-oh]

Originally Posted by Frank Metts

No love for no I.d ? Mr porter? Rick Rubin? Easy mo bee? Yall prob don't realise he produced much of the early bad boy stuff including ready to die

The beat nuts ... the hitmen ... scott storch... track masters


Manny would be in top 50 but know were near top 25 though ...

everyone you named is sample based. except scott storch. but he had what like 3 good beats lol? everyone hypes still dre, which it should be hyped. but all he did was lay the keys. dre mixed it and did drums bass and everything else.

i'd still put manny in my top 25.

my top dudes are

PREMIER OBVIOUSLY
pete rock
dilla (i hate on dude alot but he's prolly top 10. and i only hate cuz he gets so much love lol)
EASY MO BEE
alchemist
i dunno

theres too many sample based dudes. showbiz, lord finesse, BUCKWILD, even just blaze. bink is heavily slept on. kanye is nasty.

i forgot about SWIZZY. he's a keyboard beat dude. not sure if he fucks with keys but i dont think i've ever heard him sample anything.

theres too many producers. i'm forgetting alot

i'd just put manny up so high cuz like others said he was the south basically for awhile. i mean no limit was around, but other than that it was a manny fresh beat basically lol

[Strikta]

Beats by the pound > Mannie

[Inno]

Top 3

Premier( first to do it)
Dre
Rza

[Frank Metts]

@uh-oh sampling is an art form ... your comparing a painting to a collage, their both art ...

Sampling goes back a long time and has been a part of hip hop since the 80s .. you can make a completely original beat but have to build it around a voice sample ... both arts are hard to do

I'm just saying you can't discredit something that's been around since hip hops rise ... I could see if it started in like 2002 but its not steroids in baseball you can't use an asterisk because a producer samples.. But it is a personal opinion

You put easy mo bee on the list and he sampled

[Certain]

Frank Metts, uh-oh already said he favors guys who sample. DJ Premier made his life off sampling.

And Innovator, what do you mean "first to do it"?

[Inno]

Originally Posted by Certain

Frank Metts, uh-oh already said he favors guys who sample. DJ Premier made his life off sampling.

And Innovator, what do you mean "first to do it"?

my bad in my head i was debating over dre and premier as
my top producer...i put that but forget to add before dre lol my bad

didn't mean he was the very first producer