Namix Dialogues - Random Thoughts

Utmost · 02-07-2013, 04:09 PM

I like this random shit, because if i cant get anything dope down initially i scrap it all, it may prove fruitful just to write everything down first

namix · 02-08-2013, 07:52 AM

IDEATION

Even before you have a name to put to your punches - you can start thinking about your framework/approach.. let's talk about ideation... start filling your notebook with ideas, take several angle.

CONCEPTUALIZING CONCEPTS
start high-level, think about "life" in general, and narrow it... a ton of ideas can spring forth.

think about everything in between the "Universe and you" --- then you can narrow down the subject matter based on your competition and the relevancy of the world today

From the cosmos to the atom - and everything in between, there is an infinite amount of material to pull from.

Random examples:

LEVEL 1 - highest level
start off with general themes, the highest level ideas, just to get your brain churning - and so when you feel a moment where you need inspiration, you can revisit some high-level angles without feeling like "oh no, what else could i think about"
goal: give yourself something to pull from, lay out a blue print that serves as an infinite starting point to more ideas.

Universe/cosmos
World
Nature
Society
History
Science
Religion
Language/etc.
Math
Music
etc.

LEVEL 2 - a bit more specific
taking the above concepts, or others, and narrowing them down
goal:make it applicable to the "world" today

What's happening in society today?
News/events?
Nature? Science? Inventions?
Popular trends?
Politics? Money?
Social trends - new things everyone is using (tablets, mobile devices, left to his own devices with xtc tablets.. the ideas start coming)
Latest music, sports, etc. something most people are aware of.
The Date -- shouldnt be far from VALENTINES DAY... always opportunities in the present.

LEVEL 3 - PERSONALIZE
within the above, there is ALWAYS a punch which would be more applicable to your opponent than others --- maybe you get the "right opponent" and you can just "flow" and knock him out -- or maybe the process of preparation gives you OTHER ideas, got your mind working a certain way to arrive at freshness quicker than if you hadnt...
goal: however, the goal is simple, cater the concepts to the person your battling! -- now that you have a pool of ideas, drown 'em in it.

examples pending names lol.

namix · 02-08-2013, 08:01 AM

WITH KILLER ORGANIZATION, YOU'RE IN MURDEROUS COMPANY

Do not be fooled - most 'textcees' are not writing their shit down from top to bottom with now edits. Sure, there are keys, but even that art has been lost for the most part --- because you can read it!!! You can truly tell, if you look at the details and the flow, whether it was truly keyed up.

Fuck that - you're not going to get any points for how quick you wrote in this league.

Inspired by what Utmost just wrote re: "throwing out concepts", here is my 3-step phase to consider for writing in a tournament:

Open 3 word documents, save one as:
"01. Battle vs X - Idea Pool"
"02. Battle vs X - Working Version"
"03. Battle vs X - Final Verse"

Obviously you can do this on 3 pages or whatever, whatever you are comfortable doing - but consider organizing your thoughts like this.

"01. Battle vs X - Idea Pool"
This is where you save any and all ideas, even if it is just ONE WORD, or a fully fleshed out punch and setup -- this is where if you start to struggle creatively, you just start typing random shit until you tap back into the dopeness.

"02. Battle vs X - Working Version"
This is the phase where you might have 30 great punchlines, or workable concepts, which if you NEEDED to write a 60 line verse, you would work with all of them in one way or the other.

This is also where you start putting the final product together --- move your notes forward, start prioritizing concepts/etc.

"03. Battle vs X - Final Verse"
This is where you put the "must haves" right out of the gate. As you decide to revise and delete other concepts, you can revisit the "working version" to add more content as needed.

Note: this process will ALSO help in our revision/collaboration process --- i want you to be ready with some supplemental content --- if we are doing 12 lines, try writing at least 20 --- I can help you transform an okay concept to something good - or good to great --- but the ideas need to start with you, so be ready with concepts --- if they are super wack, at least have a couple other ideas to pull from so we can take it from there!!

02-08-2013, 07:52 AM	#2
namix been that, done there. Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 2,259 Battle Record: 2-1 Accomplishments - OM HOF Rep Power: 85246655	IDEATION Even before you have a name to put to your punches - you can start thinking about your framework/approach.. let's talk about ideation... start filling your notebook with ideas, take several angle. CONCEPTUALIZING CONCEPTS start high-level, think about "life" in general, and narrow it... a ton of ideas can spring forth. think about everything in between the "Universe and you" --- then you can narrow down the subject matter based on your competition and the relevancy of the world today From the cosmos to the atom - and everything in between, there is an infinite amount of material to pull from. Random examples: LEVEL 1 - highest level start off with general themes, the highest level ideas, just to get your brain churning - and so when you feel a moment where you need inspiration, you can revisit some high-level angles without feeling like "oh no, what else could i think about" goal: give yourself something to pull from, lay out a blue print that serves as an infinite starting point to more ideas. Universe/cosmos World Nature Society History Science Religion Language/etc. Math Music etc. LEVEL 2 - a bit more specific taking the above concepts, or others, and narrowing them down goal:make it applicable to the "world" today What's happening in society today? News/events? Nature? Science? Inventions? Popular trends? Politics? Money? Social trends - new things everyone is using (tablets, mobile devices, left to his own devices with xtc tablets.. the ideas start coming) Latest music, sports, etc. something most people are aware of. The Date -- shouldnt be far from VALENTINES DAY... always opportunities in the present. LEVEL 3 - PERSONALIZE within the above, there is ALWAYS a punch which would be more applicable to your opponent than others --- maybe you get the "right opponent" and you can just "flow" and knock him out -- or maybe the process of preparation gives you OTHER ideas, got your mind working a certain way to arrive at freshness quicker than if you hadnt... goal: however, the goal is simple, cater the concepts to the person your battling! -- now that you have a pool of ideas, drown 'em in it. examples pending names lol.

02-07-2013, 04:09 PM	#1
Utmost Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 322 Battle Record: 13-19 Champed - 1-2 Punch League Rep Power: 4320636	I like this random shit, because if i cant get anything dope down initially i scrap it all, it may prove fruitful just to write everything down first

02-08-2013, 08:01 AM	#3
namix been that, done there. Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 2,259 Battle Record: 2-1 Accomplishments - OM HOF Rep Power: 85246655	WITH KILLER ORGANIZATION, YOU'RE IN MURDEROUS COMPANY Do not be fooled - most 'textcees' are not writing their shit down from top to bottom with now edits. Sure, there are keys, but even that art has been lost for the most part --- because you can read it!!! You can truly tell, if you look at the details and the flow, whether it was truly keyed up. Fuck that - you're not going to get any points for how quick you wrote in this league. Inspired by what Utmost just wrote re: "throwing out concepts", here is my 3-step phase to consider for writing in a tournament: Open 3 word documents, save one as: "01. Battle vs X - Idea Pool" "02. Battle vs X - Working Version" "03. Battle vs X - Final Verse" Obviously you can do this on 3 pages or whatever, whatever you are comfortable doing - but consider organizing your thoughts like this. "01. Battle vs X - Idea Pool" This is where you save any and all ideas, even if it is just ONE WORD, or a fully fleshed out punch and setup -- this is where if you start to struggle creatively, you just start typing random shit until you tap back into the dopeness. "02. Battle vs X - Working Version" This is the phase where you might have 30 great punchlines, or workable concepts, which if you NEEDED to write a 60 line verse, you would work with all of them in one way or the other. This is also where you start putting the final product together --- move your notes forward, start prioritizing concepts/etc. "03. Battle vs X - Final Verse" This is where you put the "must haves" right out of the gate. As you decide to revise and delete other concepts, you can revisit the "working version" to add more content as needed. Note: this process will ALSO help in our revision/collaboration process --- i want you to be ready with some supplemental content --- if we are doing 12 lines, try writing at least 20 --- I can help you transform an okay concept to something good - or good to great --- but the ideas need to start with you, so be ready with concepts --- if they are super wack, at least have a couple other ideas to pull from so we can take it from there!!