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Old 08-02-2013, 03:33 PM   #21
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Old 08-02-2013, 03:40 PM   #22
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The problem is, arguing conspiracy with you is like arguing atheism vs God.

Just like the religious, who take an unknown, and ask the doubters to DISPROVE it.

That is impossible though. I could tell you I can sprout wings and fly, and if you don't believe me, disprove me - obviously I can't do that, nor any other man, but you can't truly prove it.. because you don't know me. You've never met me. You can't provide any proof or evidence that says I can't.

What I'd like, is not to argue conspiracy with you, but, for you to prove a conspiracy. And I want hard proof. Not the words of other conspirators, not blogs, not a book written by some ex-Gov employee who says he worked at area 51.. but hard proof. Not pictures of a cop that was at Sandy Hook, and then another picture of what COULD BE the same cop, at the scene of what COULD BE the Boston bombing. And the pics were pulled from a conspiracy blog that cites them as coming from CNN, which of course have now been "taken down".

The thing is - there isn't any. Belief in this sort of thing is a leap of faith, the same as a religious belief. And you have the same problem that a lot of religious people have, is you treat the beliefs YOU subscribe to, as the only truth, whether proven or not.

One of the most intelligent statements I ever heard on religion, is from Dogma (yes, this is a comedy that also has a demon made of poop in it, but, hear me out)..

Chris Rock tells the main character

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Rufus: His [Jesus] only real beef with mankind is the shit that gets carried out in His name. Wars, bigotry, televangelism. The big one, though, is the fractioning of all of the religions. He said mankind got it all wrong by taking a good idea and building a belief structure on it.

Bethany: You’re saying having beliefs is a bad thing?

Rufus: I just think it’s better to have ideas. I mean, you can change an idea, changing a belief is trickier. People die for it, people kill for it. The whole of existence is in jeopardy right now, because of the Catholic belief structure regarding this plenary indulgence bullshit. Bartleby and Loki, whether they know it or not, are exploiting that belief. And if they’re successful, you, me… ALL of this ends in a heartbeat, all over a belief.
I feel it's the same way about most of the theories and ideas you post.

It's always good to question what's going on. Blindly putting your full trust in people who preside over you is never a good thing. But making a strict belief structure out of theories and speculations based solely on distrust and dislike of the government is equally unhealthy.. Especially in the volume that you consume it. Literally EVERY conspiracy out there - you subscribe to all of it. Even when they contradict each other.

I know you mean well, when you post these things - you're trying to look out for your fellow man - but the way you present things, and your attitude that what you believe is the truth, and the only truth, and those that are skeptic of you are fools or "sheep", is what drives people away from you, and makes them so resistant of your posts.

This is especially true when in a good few cases - you have been outright wrong, and are never gracious about it.. always with "just because it didn't happen when it was supposed to doesn't mean it won't".

How many times did Nibiru get pushed back and never happen?

12/21/12 - "I never said the world would, but that it was going to change." bla bla bla, cryptic post about how for all we know it did change etc.

All these other "mysterious dates" you post in your sig that never come about with anything. This past March was going to bring these CRAZY ASS WINTERS where all of the midwest was going to completely freeze over and the white walkers would come back and you were gonna become the Night's Watchmen (minus GoT jokes) - nothing happened. It got cold in Ohio and other places that get cold every winter.. prices of certain crops like corn and shit went up a bit.. nothing like you warned us of.

You had a date sigged for the end of May, too, iirc, of course, come June you erase it and act like nobody saw it, just move on to the next one.

Oh, and the thing about how some dude scores on the wrong basket in a basketball game (was it even pro? lol) and this was proof that nuclear rays of the sun were disorienting people and the world was ending.. and how we were going to keep seeing this type of thing (and we didn't)..

Or the time you claimed that Sandy Hook being on a map in Dark Knight rises was proof that Sandy Hook shooting was a false flag.. when actually Sandy Hook is also a beach in NJ and the fact that Gotham is actually in Jersey. But, more realistically, even if the movie bases Gotham on NYC, Sandy Hook, NJ is at the north tip of NJ, closer to NY.

I'm pretty sure EVERY warning EVER POSTED by you has come and gone and proved you wrong.

And worst part of it is, I already know you're going to dismiss this post and tell me I'm "on your dick" and probably post some cringe worthy Nas quote about in response, and not address all the times you've been wrong, and the zero times you've been right.
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Old 08-02-2013, 03:46 PM   #23
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Old 08-02-2013, 03:48 PM   #24
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lmao man you have to know what it is we're debating before it's debated lol

so many proven conspiracies here and abroad.

Tuskegee experiment, there's another

man do you guys even know what the word conspiracy means? lol
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Old 08-02-2013, 03:48 PM   #25
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Fair enough.

But you fail to see my point.

There are many proven shady activities on the behalf of ours, and many other governments.

But when I say to you to prove your conspiracies - I'm talking about the UNPROVEN shit that YOU post as FACT, and your attitude towards it. Which is, that because you believe it, it must be true.. and your dismissive nature when it comes to you being wrong.

I've read a lot of shit you post. And you've put me on to a lot of ideas and a lot of shit I wouldn't have thought of before and I appreciate it.

BUT

I don't appreciate the way you cram it in our faces and present things as fact.

You're like those church boys that stop people on the street to try and force a pray circle on you.. or to "save" you.

Share the knowledge and the ideas with those that want them. But don't tell me I'm a fool because I don't believe Reptillians run the British monarchy.
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Old 08-02-2013, 03:49 PM   #26
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Nibiru is not a conspiracy lmao. I never once said the world would end, I said it will end for some people, cyclic destruction etc

omg dude please get your shit right
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Old 08-02-2013, 03:51 PM   #28
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nigga all that shit was an opinion, may sigs and all that, something I thought would happen that didn't, those are predictions, not conspiracy theories lmao smh
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I said that shit about sandy hook was esoteric resonance in the negative inclination

sandusky, hurricane sandy, sandy hook all in the span of a few months. I never said the shit was a conspiracy. I said Sandy hooks story didn't add up for sure that had conspiratorial implications....hell yeah I think it was a conspiracy....what does conspiracy mean though?
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nigga never have I ever said shit like "just because it didn't happen doesn't mean it won't" when I was wrong. dude you're just misquoting me now which is mostly what people do on here. Get my shit straight
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I said that shit about sandy hook was esoteric resonance in the negative inclination

sandusky, hurricane sandy, sandy hook all in the span of a few months. I never said the shit was a conspiracy. I said Sandy hooks story didn't add up for sure that had conspiratorial implications....hell yeah I think it was a conspiracy....what does conspiracy mean though?
You posted a pic from Dark Knight Rises where Gordon points to a map, and said map had "Sandy Hook" written on it.

You claimed it was some kinda proof of what they were planning/the fact that right before Sandy Hook shooting, the Batman shooting happened.

This was all proved by the words Sandy Hook, on a map, in a movie...
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What if it did tho?

That'd be weird.
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esoteric resonance nigga, that's exactly what I said.


the sandy hook shooting no doubt I said the story didn't add up but more so I elaborated on the dark agenda regarding negative channeled energy. Dude you're misquoting the shit outta me right now lol
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Maybe they do and the government isn't telling us.

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I've heard you and your piece on resonance..

This was a different thread the movie thing was about the gov. "hiding" proof right in front of us.. I wish NC1.0 was archived.. lol

I distinctly remember this because I posted the same thing about Sandy Hook NJ, and Gotham being based around NJ/NYC, being from Jersey myself when I saw Sandy Hook on a map in Batman it was like "well no shit".

But it's neither here nor there..

You've singled out one thing here.. and still are ignoring every thing else. Un-provable shit aside, why not touch base on all the warnings you've given us, and how every time it was "for real this time" and every time it didn't come through?
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@2 Beautiful

I'm sorry but I'm watching a movie so its dark and that avy just scared the shit out of me. Why is it even like that?

I'm also high too which may not have helped.

We cool tho, just don't do it again please.
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Chyeahhh would rather force his readers to do his oft-alluded detective work than draw solid, contestable conclusions, based on cited reliable sources? This is new information to me!


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