Week 1 Discussion Thread - Page 3

Boredom · 07-25-2013, 11:52 PM

they are accurate unless i can get an ext til tomorrow. been way to nice to spend time inside writing, and i'm just about to head out drinking. if u don't want to give the ext i understand.. and i will def feed your verse @Nigma .

Nigma · 07-26-2013, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Boredom

they are accurate unless i can get an ext til tomorrow. been way to nice to spend time inside writing, and i'm just about to head out drinking. if u don't want to give the ext i understand.. and i will def feed your verse @Nigma .

@Mike Wrecka @zygote is this acceptable? My only concern would be a potential lackage in votes but I'm fine with it if the powers that be are

07-26-2013, 12:23 AM

im not a mod but 36 hr ext are not unheard of...should b possible if competitor approves, but its ultimately up to the mods.

Inno · 07-26-2013, 12:57 AM

godam you fig

Coup · 07-26-2013, 12:59 AM

imma gunna vote tomorrow...good verses to read

07-26-2013, 01:06 AM

Lol no I'm not fat @Adonis haha

Adonis · 07-26-2013, 01:10 AM

Lies

Your verse reminded me of Dayday mimicking that fat girl about the hostess cakes (RIP) on Friday after the next

07-26-2013, 01:13 AM

Haha nah I usta cook n have had numerous jobs in the hospitality industry

zygote · 07-26-2013, 01:35 AM

I have some idea for changes to writing deadlines to make it more streamlined (just going to run it by the others). At the moment though, if you wish to accept EXTS then O.K. 100%. Remember, all contest pages will be closed Sunday afternoon (my time zone), which translates into Saturday 10-11pm Pacific Standard Time, so consider that closing date/time if you are requesting EXTS. Going to vote on 3 pages now, as won't require competitors to do something without doing it myself.

Certain · 07-26-2013, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by zygote

I have some idea for changes to writing deadlines to make it more streamlined (just going to run it by the others). At the moment though, if you wish to accept EXTS then O.K. 100%. Remember, all contest pages will be closed Sunday afternoon (my time zone), which translates into Saturday 10-11pm Pacific Standard Time, so consider that closing date/time if you are requesting EXTS. Going to vote on 3 pages now, as won't require competitors to do something without doing it myself.

An idea I will suggest: If your opponent no-shows, you get one point for showing up and one point for voting on three battles.

Certain · 07-26-2013, 02:32 AM

@Adonis, here's the feedback promised for your verse:

The first 20 lines were individually strong characterization, but at a certain point I felt that you were repeating yourself, from a content perspective. I grasped the character pretty quickly, and while there was some nice wit shown, the content didn't move forward. That wouldn't have been as much of a problem had the ending, the turn, not sort of come out of nowhere. I don't think the dark turnaround really felt earned because it hadn't been properly introduced. So content-wise, the verse fell short for me.

But there was a lot of nice lyricism. A few of the conceptual and metaphorical descriptions worked well. And I did develop a very full sense of who this man is, more than simply a cliche. More concrete details might have helped, but the first person excused that to some degree as people often write about themselves without facing concrete details.

You used the challenge letters well, though I wasn't crazy about finishing the verse the way you did and leaping outside the concept and context of everything else you had written for that single last line. Besides, there are plenty of "W" words.

Your verse was good but showed the signs of someone who certainly can do better.

zygote · 07-26-2013, 02:32 AM

Yes good idea. You already get 1 point for winning via no-show, but there can be no extra points for voting, 3 is just the required amount. Short votes are fine as well.
Well I was going to post it in the Moderator discussion area but cannot find where that is. So I will post it here instead. Here is the idea for Time Deadlines. Comment if you have some views.

" Everything will be closed each week Sunday afternoon 3pm-4pm East coast Australia time which is Saturday 10-11 pm Pacific Standard Time. It takes about an hour then a new magazine will be uploaded with the new week’s tasks and match-ups. Up until the time of closing you are allowed to upload and vote. However, be considerate to your opponent and don’t upload something right before, when everything is being closed. If you think you’re going to no show that’s fine just say so, if you can’t write until whatever day, that’s fine as well, just say so in your contest page. Extensions etc are meaningless in this format – Saturday 10-11pm Pacific Standard Time is when the Tasks are uploaded, and when all the weeks pages are closed. Your time frame for finishing writing and voting is therefore between Saturday 10-11pm PST and the next Saturday 10-11pm PST. "

Basically there will be no split between writing/voting periods (Like verses due Wednesday, voting due Saturday). This is placing some trust into competitors who have signed in to write whenever they can, with each competitor knowing there is that hard deadline of Sat 11pm PST and to upload accordingly. Note, this is only an idea, not a rule change or anything.

Mike Wrecka · 07-26-2013, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by zygote

Yes good idea. You already get 1 point for winning via no-show, but there can be no extra points for voting, 3 is just the required amount. Short votes are fine as well.
Well I was going to post it in the Moderator discussion area but cannot find where that is. So I will post it here instead. Here is the idea for Time Deadlines. Comment if you have some views.

" Everything will be closed each week Sunday afternoon 3pm-4pm East coast Australia time which is Saturday 10-11 pm Pacific Standard Time. It takes about an hour then a new magazine will be uploaded with the new week’s tasks and match-ups. Up until the time of closing you are allowed to upload and vote. However, be considerate to your opponent and don’t upload something right before, when everything is being closed. If you think you’re going to no show that’s fine just say so, if you can’t write until whatever day, that’s fine as well, just say so in your contest page. Extensions etc are meaningless in this format – Saturday 10-11pm Pacific Standard Time is when the Tasks are uploaded, and when all the weeks pages are closed. Your time frame for finishing writing and voting is therefore between Saturday 10-11pm PST and the next Saturday 10-11pm PST. "

Basically there will be no split between writing/voting periods (Like verses due Wednesday, voting due Saturday). This is placing some trust into competitors who have signed in to write whenever they can, with each competitor knowing there is that hard deadline of Sat 11pm PST and to upload accordingly. Note, this is only an idea, not a rule change or anything.

personally i dont think a league can run like this. people post right before a deadline. its human nature. voting will be non existant and without feed back people will stop writing. the league will wither and die. thats my opinion.

and some battles have already been closed so we should stick with the deadlines set forth at least for this week to be fair to all

Certain · 07-26-2013, 01:03 PM

I agree with Mike Wrecka. All the proof you need about that idea not really working is available this week. Almost everyone procrastinated even with a deadline. Gazette and I posted our verses Tuesday and didn't get a vote for more than 48 hours.

The natural inclination for people is to come up with excuses not to write, either internally or externally. Then it's for people to come up with excuses not to vote. You have to provide deadlines, multiple deadlines, or shit won't get done.

Moreover, if you know your opponent is better than you, what would stop you from dropping a verse three minutes before the deadline to get a tie?

Plot · 07-26-2013, 02:02 PM

I hope Deadman shows, either way can I get some sort of feed on my
short drop, haven't written in a while and it was a pretty quick key obv.

07-26-2013, 02:04 PM

Imma drop the remainder of my votes in a bit

Fig · 07-26-2013, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Innovator

godam you fig

Whats good bro, I came through lol

NYCSPITZ · 07-26-2013, 03:05 PM

sup Mr.J can I get an ext I'll write something in a couple hrs? If not it's cool I'm still happy b/c I just scored a potential 100k+/yr job!! yay!!

Adonis · 07-26-2013, 03:15 PM

So @NYCSPITZ has officially made this a $100 cash prize for the final playoff champ.

You're too kind sir...

@zygote bad idea

NYCSPITZ · 07-26-2013, 04:10 PM

lmao!! Maybe.

07-26-2013, 01:10 AM	#47
Adonis Tsk Tsk Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Beer Goggles Posts: 4,834 Battle Record: 36-34 Champed - Lime Green Poetry Association - NFL Pick'em 2016-17 Rep Power: 9946446	Lies Your verse reminded me of Dayday mimicking that fat girl about the hostess cakes (RIP) on Friday after the next __________________ I'm tryna fuck like A-don-is TUPAC SHAKUR

07-26-2013, 02:32 AM	#51
Certain Mad fucking dangerous. Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 12,072 Battle Record: 40-19 Champed - AOWL Season 3 - Art of Writing League (2x) Rep Power: 85899403	@Adonis, here's the feedback promised for your verse: The first 20 lines were individually strong characterization, but at a certain point I felt that you were repeating yourself, from a content perspective. I grasped the character pretty quickly, and while there was some nice wit shown, the content didn't move forward. That wouldn't have been as much of a problem had the ending, the turn, not sort of come out of nowhere. I don't think the dark turnaround really felt earned because it hadn't been properly introduced. So content-wise, the verse fell short for me. But there was a lot of nice lyricism. A few of the conceptual and metaphorical descriptions worked well. And I did develop a very full sense of who this man is, more than simply a cliche. More concrete details might have helped, but the first person excused that to some degree as people often write about themselves without facing concrete details. You used the challenge letters well, though I wasn't crazy about finishing the verse the way you did and leaping outside the concept and context of everything else you had written for that single last line. Besides, there are plenty of "W" words. Your verse was good but showed the signs of someone who certainly can do better. __________________ I'm just swinging swords strictly based on keyboards, unbalanced like elephants and ants on seesaws.

07-26-2013, 02:32 AM	#52
zygote Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 502 Battle Record: 33-12 Accomplishments - OM HOF (2x) Champed - Art of Writing League (3x) Rep Power: 737825	Yes good idea. You already get 1 point for winning via no-show, but there can be no extra points for voting, 3 is just the required amount. Short votes are fine as well. Well I was going to post it in the Moderator discussion area but cannot find where that is. So I will post it here instead. Here is the idea for Time Deadlines. Comment if you have some views. " Everything will be closed each week Sunday afternoon 3pm-4pm East coast Australia time which is Saturday 10-11 pm Pacific Standard Time. It takes about an hour then a new magazine will be uploaded with the new week’s tasks and match-ups. Up until the time of closing you are allowed to upload and vote. However, be considerate to your opponent and don’t upload something right before, when everything is being closed. If you think you’re going to no show that’s fine just say so, if you can’t write until whatever day, that’s fine as well, just say so in your contest page. Extensions etc are meaningless in this format – Saturday 10-11pm Pacific Standard Time is when the Tasks are uploaded, and when all the weeks pages are closed. Your time frame for finishing writing and voting is therefore between Saturday 10-11pm PST and the next Saturday 10-11pm PST. " Basically there will be no split between writing/voting periods (Like verses due Wednesday, voting due Saturday). This is placing some trust into competitors who have signed in to write whenever they can, with each competitor knowing there is that hard deadline of Sat 11pm PST and to upload accordingly. Note, this is only an idea, not a rule change or anything. Last edited by zygote; 07-26-2013 at 03:11 AM.

07-26-2013, 01:03 PM	#54
Certain Mad fucking dangerous. Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 12,072 Battle Record: 40-19 Champed - AOWL Season 3 - Art of Writing League (2x) Rep Power: 85899403	I agree with Mike Wrecka. All the proof you need about that idea not really working is available this week. Almost everyone procrastinated even with a deadline. Gazette and I posted our verses Tuesday and didn't get a vote for more than 48 hours. The natural inclination for people is to come up with excuses not to write, either internally or externally. Then it's for people to come up with excuses not to vote. You have to provide deadlines, multiple deadlines, or shit won't get done. Moreover, if you know your opponent is better than you, what would stop you from dropping a verse three minutes before the deadline to get a tie? __________________ I'm just swinging swords strictly based on keyboards, unbalanced like elephants and ants on seesaws.

07-26-2013, 03:15 PM	#59
Adonis Tsk Tsk Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Beer Goggles Posts: 4,834 Battle Record: 36-34 Champed - Lime Green Poetry Association - NFL Pick'em 2016-17 Rep Power: 9946446	So @NYCSPITZ has officially made this a $100 cash prize for the final playoff champ. You're too kind sir... @zygote bad idea __________________ I'm tryna fuck like A-don-is TUPAC SHAKUR

07-25-2013, 11:52 PM	#41
Boredom Been On One Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 1,618 Battle Record: 26-28 Champed - Newbie Tournament IV Rep Power: 415107	they are accurate unless i can get an ext til tomorrow. been way to nice to spend time inside writing, and i'm just about to head out drinking. if u don't want to give the ext i understand.. and i will def feed your verse @Nigma .

07-26-2013, 12:23 AM	#43
Rawn M.D. Guest Posts: n/a	im not a mod but 36 hr ext are not unheard of...should b possible if competitor approves, but its ultimately up to the mods.

07-26-2013, 12:57 AM	#44
Inno Ad mini tator Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 10,005 Battle Record: 26-54 Champed - Lime Green Poetry Association - Black August - 1-2 Punch League Rep Power: 85899400	godam you fig

07-26-2013, 12:59 AM	#45
Coup Don't believe the hype Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 572 Battle Record: 4-5 Rep Power: 0	imma gunna vote tomorrow...good verses to read

07-26-2013, 01:06 AM	#46
Rawn M.D. Guest Posts: n/a	Lol no I'm not fat @Adonis haha

07-26-2013, 01:13 AM	#48
Rawn M.D. Guest Posts: n/a	Haha nah I usta cook n have had numerous jobs in the hospitality industry

07-26-2013, 01:35 AM	#49
zygote Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 502 Battle Record: 33-12 Accomplishments - OM HOF (2x) Champed - Art of Writing League (3x) Rep Power: 737825	I have some idea for changes to writing deadlines to make it more streamlined (just going to run it by the others). At the moment though, if you wish to accept EXTS then O.K. 100%. Remember, all contest pages will be closed Sunday afternoon (my time zone), which translates into Saturday 10-11pm Pacific Standard Time, so consider that closing date/time if you are requesting EXTS. Going to vote on 3 pages now, as won't require competitors to do something without doing it myself.

07-26-2013, 02:02 PM	#55
Plot Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 1,376 Battle Record: 26-32 Rep Power: 1309741	I hope Deadman shows, either way can I get some sort of feed on my short drop, haven't written in a while and it was a pretty quick key obv.

07-26-2013, 02:04 PM	#56
Rawn M.D. Guest Posts: n/a	Imma drop the remainder of my votes in a bit

07-26-2013, 03:05 PM	#58
NYCSPITZ SYRACUSE Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 4,033 Battle Record: 31-37 Champed - Write Night II - Alias Topical Tournament Rep Power: 4743544	sup Mr.J can I get an ext I'll write something in a couple hrs? If not it's cool I'm still happy b/c I just scored a potential 100k+/yr job!! yay!!

07-26-2013, 04:10 PM	#60
NYCSPITZ SYRACUSE Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 4,033 Battle Record: 31-37 Champed - Write Night II - Alias Topical Tournament Rep Power: 4743544	lmao!! Maybe.