How Big Is Space?

[uh-oh]

Originally Posted by Zenland

What is nothing?

this beat i made like 6 years ago is relevant

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[Anjahl]

Originally Posted by uh-oh

nah man you don't get it

the atoms are so strategically perfectly arranged that they aren't destroyed

its the super element of the universe

if i have one arrow, i can snap it over my knee, but if i have 20 arrows i can't snap them over my knee at once

science

You can't align anything into a space smaller than the parts that they are made of uh-oh. Point blank period...we don't know what happens to matter in a black hole, but we know it cant exist in any form we know of. You have to understand that the gravity at the center of a black hole is strong and changes so rapidly from the edge that it literally fucks relativity in the ass. If you were to go feet first into a blackhole, your legs would literally exist in a different time from your head. The very cohesion and concept of matter is rendered useless at that point.

You're talking about matter existing at a gravitational point smaller than the building blocks of that matter. You cant fit 4 quarters in a pinhole, I don't give a fuck how you stack them.

[Split]

Originally Posted by Anjahl

We can't actually see blackholes in the first place uh-oh. They only exist as mathmetical conclusions. If gravity is strong enough to prevent the escape of light, then it is gravity too strong for atoms to survive. End of story. If this wasn't the case then black holes wouldn't be singularities.

You are trying to postulate something that science has already proven as an impossibility.

thats not true. We don't know what occurs in a black hole, which is not the same as nothing can exist in a blackhole. We just don't know.

there's a seminar at my college soon about how engineers and physicists are looking at black holes as an energy source/ somehow utilizing their immense power

[Anjahl]

Originally Posted by Split Eight

thats not true. We don't know what occurs in a black hole, which is not the same as nothing can exist in a blackhole. We just don't know.

there's a seminar at my college soon about how engineers and physicists are looking at black holes as an energy source/ somehow utilizing their immense power

It is true though...we don't know what happens to matter in a black hole except that it cannot continue to exist in any state that we know of. Uh-Oh is postulating that a mineral or metal could be at the center emitting a huge, immensely powerful, gravitational field which science HAS shown as being impossible. The sheer magnitude of gravity in a black hole renders atomic structured matter impossible because the forces rip atoms apart down to their elementary particles. Without atoms, you have no matter...only mass.

So yes, science has proven that matter cannot exist in a black hole because the very nature of it being a black hole prevents it. If it was anything less...it wouldn't be a black hole.

edit: maybe my semantics are wrong on this.
I should prolly say science has "shown" rather than science has "proven".

[uh-oh]

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