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Old 11-04-2020, 03:31 PM   #1
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Wrong.

Systemic, structural, and institutional is ONE type of racism.
Racism can also exist at the individual and group level.

You don't think a black person can be racist towards whites?
Grow up.

How 'bout an Asian person who is racist towards blacks.

How 'bout a Native American who is racist towards Mexicans. Or a Mexican who hates Native Americans.

There is also sytemic racism towards whites and asians, mainly when it comes to college admission at institutions of higher learning. By that I mean affirmative action or quotas.
I'm certainly not EQUATING this with the systemic racism that blacks have to deal with in multiple institutions. But I am simply pointing out that it does exist, despite your narrow definition.

And, I lean left before you accuse me of being a right-wing supremist.
in many ways, centrist politics are more dangerous than those of the right, you're the people out here providing their cover, boldiy demanding that 'racism against whites' is recognised. there's nothing left-leaning about what you're doing.

affirmative action is not systemic racism. why is there always such dedication and desperation for establishing white people as oppressed on racial grounds? the tree of white supremacy has exactly zero cherries to pick.

interrupting conversations about white supremacy with alleged 'exceptions to the rule' is just a bad move.
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in many ways, centrist politics are more dangerous than those of the right, you're the people out here providing their cover, boldiy demanding that 'racism against whites' is recognised. there's nothing left-leaning about what you're doing.

affirmative action is not systemic racism. why is there always such dedication and desperation for establishing white people as oppressed on racial grounds? the tree of white supremacy has exactly zero cherries to pick.

interrupting conversations about white supremacy with alleged 'exceptions to the rule' is just a bad move.
You're missing my point.
Let's forget about my "exception to the rule" example of affirmative action and quotas, and focus on my first point.
That racism is not soley institutional and systemic.

You're forgetting group and individual racism.
I.e. a group of black people could be racist towards whites. Or hispanics. Or whatever.
A group of Hispanics could be racist towards whites.

Just because it doesn't fit your agenda, doesn't mean you can throw out half the definition of racism.
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Old 11-04-2020, 04:55 PM   #3
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You're missing my point.
Let's forget about my "exception to the rule" example of affirmative action and quotas, and focus on my first point.
That racism is not soley institutional and systemic.

You're forgetting group and individual racism.
I.e. a group of black people could be racist towards whites. Or hispanics. Or whatever.
A group of Hispanics could be racist towards whites.

Just because it doesn't fit your agenda, doesn't mean you can throw out half the definition of racism.
I don't entertain centrist political agendas masquerading as "impartial and objective". The invisibility of the ''apolitical'', of appeals to ''realism'', is exactly how the normative and how hegemonic ideology operates.

No, white people don't face racism. What white people used to think racism was has long since been debunked as, *drumroll*, white neutralising propaganda. Surprise surprise, white people were wrong about what constitutes racism and if you're motivated to spend your time seeking some exceptional weird clauses for whiteness under attack the onus is on you to ask why that is motivational for you. White supremacy is the dominant global force but you find it pertinent to quibble about racism against white people, its standard centrist equivocation and refusal to acknowledge that understandings evolve, either with or without you.
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