Mercedes C450 AMG

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Originally Posted by Pent uP

I do.

Incase i was wrong i looked around and coyldnt find anywhere with a quick search that didnt say the 335 wasnt a 3 liter 300 hp/ ftlb machine...and with the m package its a 332 or 317 ftlb depending on stick or not. While that gets close to #s that the amg starts at its stilljust bmws inline six that theyve been doing for years.

Whereas the mercedes engine/drivetrain is more in every sense. I dont see how they are too comparable outside "six cylinder european cars."

And realistically outside the 328 the 335 is pretty bottom barrel for new bmws

I know theres the 320 but at least that tries to accomplish fuel economy

You're showing your lack of actual experience.

BMW severely underrates their HP/TQ. The published numbers are typically accurate at the wheel, not the crank. I drove both back to back since Mercedes is literally across the street from BMW here (which is hilarious for schadenfreude of the salesmen when I tell them where I just visited). Actually, the 340 (replaces the 335 in 16 MY) does have a new 6 - the B58 replaces the outgoing N55. I've heard mixed things but never drove the N55 so can't compare directly.

A 335 or 340 M package w/DH is 3/4 of an M3 the same way the C450 is 3/4 of a C63.

The spartan interior of the BMW turned me off, though. The F30 needs a refresh ASAP. Yeah, COMAND sucks compared to iDrive, but good lord is the driving experience night and day inside.

I wish I could track both to really push the respective suspensions.. despite offering 5 different adjustments on the Merc, I have a feeling the 2 (or is it 3?) on the BMW win every category.

That instant torque from the BiTurbo in the C450 Sport+ Mode though.. definitely felt lag on the low end of the BMW that was nonexistent in the C450.