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Old 11-18-2014, 11:28 AM   #1
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rape is rape. if there's consent not rape. if not consent, it is rape. it is cut and dry. it's that simple.

and jfc

women who show off their bodies aren't objectifying themselves ffs

they want attention? maybe, probably, quite likely.

but the attention they want isn't having obscenities shouted at them, or being made to feel threatened.

a gang of dudes yelling "NICE TITS BITCH" aggressively is in no way acceptable.

of course we all want sex, but the problem women have with cat calling / street harassment is that is not how you go about getting it.

if she looks fine and you are turned on by her, how about act like a civil person, treat her like a human when you talk to her, and maybe you'll actually succeed instead of being called a villain? shrug

as for regret, yes, that does happen and it is unfortunate. but the thing is the minority can't ruin it for everybody. but nobody brings up the fact that type of toxic behavior is an issue feminists discuss. as is sexual assaults against men, and the toxic belief that a man can't be sexually harassed or assaulted.


So women should be allowed to wear and do as they wish but men have to be controlled even verbally around them?

Hey you can walk around showing ur tits but unless u get written consent she is feeling you then you can not speak on said titties because it is "harassment"

that hsit is fucking ridiculous. ur not treating women equal your treating women special which congrats its what they want. u fall into the feminist category.

if a man walks around with his dick hanging out he is going to get reaction, they dont because they represent themself in a different way

so its ok for women to do? equality isnt what your after
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Old 11-18-2014, 12:03 PM   #2
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So women should be allowed to wear and do as they wish but men have to be controlled even verbally around them?

Hey you can walk around showing ur tits but unless u get written consent she is feeling you then you can not speak on said titties because it is "harassment"

that hsit is fucking ridiculous. ur not treating women equal your treating women special which congrats its what they want. u fall into the feminist category.

if a man walks around with his dick hanging out he is going to get reaction, they dont because they represent themself in a different way

so its ok for women to do? equality isnt what your after
Rubbish. I hold women to exactly the same standards. If a man has his dick out I expect him to get arrested. If a women literally has her titties out I expect the same. If she's showing cleavage or wearing tight jeans, that's her right and no a man does not have a right to catcall her because of it. Similarly, if a man is shirtless or wearing those super tight compression pants you can see te outline of your dick through or w/e a woman doesn't have the right to catcall him because of it.

Maybe you'd see it better if I put it like this: instead of a woman catcalling you, who is not physically threatening and whom you might be imagining is somewhat attractive, imagine it's one of those gay dudes that hit the gym HARD. A dude that is fuck off big, that you can easily gauge you have no chance to best him if it comes to that. Imagine you're going about your business. Maybe you went for a run and it's hot so you're wearing shorts and you took your shirt off. The gay guy ogles you and wolf whistles as you walk by. How you feeling?
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Old 11-18-2014, 12:34 PM   #3
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Rubbish. I hold women to exactly the same standards. If a man has his dick out I expect him to get arrested. If a women literally has her titties out I expect the same. If she's showing cleavage or wearing tight jeans, that's her right and no a man does not have a right to catcall her because of it. Similarly, if a man is shirtless or wearing those super tight compression pants you can see te outline of your dick through or w/e a woman doesn't have the right to catcall him because of it.

Maybe you'd see it better if I put it like this: instead of a woman catcalling you, who is not physically threatening and whom you might be imagining is somewhat attractive, imagine it's one of those gay dudes that hit the gym HARD. A dude that is fuck off big, that you can easily gauge you have no chance to best him if it comes to that. Imagine you're going about your business. Maybe you went for a run and it's hot so you're wearing shorts and you took your shirt off. The gay guy ogles you and wolf whistles as you walk by. How you feeling?
I am o.k. with it, if no one puts there hands on me and if i said look im nopt down with it im good with where i am. and then they stop im good.

pursuit is a part of the process, plus women do the same exact thing but don't get any mention at all thats my point for true equality it shouldnt even be called fucking feminism lol it should be equalinism or some shit

plus I see plenty of women half naked then get mad when someone even compliments then. attraction is a part of life especially sexual attraction. for you to say its wrong is ridiculous. I see a lot of mind sets where they think if the women is ok with it its k to pursue the man. thats a one way street needing to have 2 way implementations.

and also in one fucking sentance you are saying to treat someone equally and not judge by how they look then you turn around and describe the man as being muscular and intimidating. so which is it?

ur mind set is why social justice is fucking gay bro

because you want to call for equality but its not , even ur mind is biased whether you admit it or not.
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I am o.k. with it, if no one puts there hands on me and if i said look im nopt down with it im good with where i am. and then they stop im good.
And if they don't stop? And if they call out something demeaning? "Hey sweet pea, turn around for me and lemme see that tight ass". How's that? And you gotta deal with it constantly.

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pursuit is a part of the process, plus women do the same exact thing but don't get any mention at all thats my point for true equality it shouldnt even be called fucking feminism lol it should be equalinism or some shit
Already addressed this in this thread. Feminism vs egalitarianism (that's the word you want). See above.

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plus I see plenty of women half naked then get mad when someone even compliments then. attraction is a part of life especially sexual attraction. for you to say its wrong is ridiculous. I see a lot of mind sets where they think if the women is ok with it its k to pursue the man. thats a one way street needing to have 2 way implementations.
Of course it's ok to be attracted to someone lol. It's how you choose to act on that attraction that might not be OK. If a girl is wearing yoga pants, it's probably bc she's on her way to/from yoga, and not because she wants random men to approach her. And no, again, I don't hve a double standard- it is NOT ok for a woman to engage a man bc of the way he dresses either. Your whole argument seems to be that sexism affects men too so therefore we should all just stfu and accept things the way they are. I disagree. I think sexism against both genders should be addressed.

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and also in one fucking sentance you are saying to treat someone equally and not judge by how they look then you turn around and describe the man as being muscular and intimidating. so which is it?
Promoting equality doesn't mean ignoring physical facts. By and large, men are bigger and stronger than women, so when a man catcalls a woman it can be perceived as physically threatening, which is not the case vice versa. Which is why I tried the analogy of the buff gay gay. Still doesn't make women catcalling men OK.

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ur mind set is why social justice is fucking gay bro

because you want to call for equality but its not , even ur mind is biased whether you admit it or not.
In this particular thread we are mostly talking about women's rights (aka feminism). That doesn't mean I don't also support equality for other groups/everyone.

I hope you have a daughter :)
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And if they don't stop? And if they call out something demeaning? "Hey sweet pea, turn around for me and lemme see that tight ass". How's that? And you gotta deal with it constantly.



Already addressed this in this thread. Feminism vs egalitarianism (that's the word you want). See above.



Of course it's ok to be attracted to someone lol. It's how you choose to act on that attraction that might not be OK. If a girl is wearing yoga pants, it's probably bc she's on her way to/from yoga, and not because she wants random men to approach her. And no, again, I don't hve a double standard- it is NOT ok for a woman to engage a man bc of the way he dresses either. Your whole argument seems to be that sexism affects men too so therefore we should all just stfu and accept things the way they are. I disagree. I think sexism against both genders should be addressed.



Promoting equality doesn't mean ignoring physical facts. By and large, men are bigger and stronger than women, so when a man catcalls a woman it can be perceived as physically threatening, which is not the case vice versa. Which is why I tried the analogy of the buff gay gay. Still doesn't make women catcalling men OK.



In this particular thread we are mostly talking about women's rights (aka feminism). That doesn't mean I don't also support equality for other groups/everyone.

I hope you have a daughter :)
lol there is 800 thousand cases of physical abuse per year from women doing it to men, i don't think using "physical" facts is less one sided them the ":wearing a tight dress" argument

also without random people approaching each other how do you think people meet? get married? etc?


and in this particular thread we are talking bout womens rights yes but talking about them being turned into womens privilege which is what is happening. you say you hope i have a daughterm why I have a son its worse for him right now because no matter what he does he will be seen as a villian while the female counterpart will be seen as something needing to be protected. your fucking out your mind if you dont think that is the case or you literally dont involve yourself in it in real life other then a few internet threads so lets go over some facts

approaching someone you find attractive not misogynistic or harassment
womendo nto earn less then men in most of the same fields
women account for 800 thousand slots of the abuse cases every year
the date rate drug shit is basically a myth based ont he facts and actual reposts taking from hospitals and etc

your rape culture myth is just that its myth as no one promotes rape but rapists, approaching someone is not rape.

most women naturally dont want to approach men its been researched and proven.

women tend to go more for careers in the medical field such a snurses which is in the 90's percent of women and in research women were said to choose that career because it is more hands on

feminists want equality yet want all rights to choose whether to have a child or not, so a man has to be a father or not based on what the women chooses

none of that is equality

feminism and social justice is fucking bullshit and should not be around
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Rubbish. I hold women to exactly the same standards. If a man has his dick out I expect him to get arrested. If a women literally has her titties out I expect the same. If she's showing cleavage or wearing tight jeans, that's her right and no a man does not have a right to catcall her because of it. Similarly, if a man is shirtless or wearing those super tight compression pants you can see te outline of your dick through or w/e a woman doesn't have the right to catcall him because of it.

Maybe you'd see it better if I put it like this: instead of a woman catcalling you, who is not physically threatening and whom you might be imagining is somewhat attractive, imagine it's one of those gay dudes that hit the gym HARD. A dude that is fuck off big, that you can easily gauge you have no chance to best him if it comes to that. Imagine you're going about your business. Maybe you went for a run and it's hot so you're wearing shorts and you took your shirt off. The gay guy ogles you and wolf whistles as you walk by. How you feeling?
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Rubbish. I hold women to exactly the same standards. If a man has his dick out I expect him to get arrested. If a women literally has her titties out I expect the same. If she's showing cleavage or wearing tight jeans, that's her right and no a man does not have a right to catcall her because of it. Similarly, if a man is shirtless or wearing those super tight compression pants you can see te outline of your dick through or w/e a woman doesn't have the right to catcall him because of it.
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So women should be allowed to wear and do as they wish but men have to be controlled even verbally around them?

Hey you can walk around showing ur tits but unless u get written consent she is feeling you then you can not speak on said titties because it is "harassment"

that hsit is fucking ridiculous. ur not treating women equal your treating women special which congrats its what they want. u fall into the feminist category.

if a man walks around with his dick hanging out he is going to get reaction, they dont because they represent themself in a different way

so its ok for women to do? equality isnt what your after
dick is not the same as tits

cleavage is not the same as nude tits??

if women said the things men said to them, back to men, that is also considered harassment and was already touched on in this thread?

nobody needs written consent to be hit on. flirting and offensive harassment are not one in the same. i don't understand how this is hard to grasp.
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dick is not the same as tits

cleavage is not the same as nude tits??

if women said the things men said to them, back to men, that is also considered harassment and was already touched on in this thread?

nobody needs written consent to be hit on. flirting and offensive harassment are not one in the same. i don't understand how this is hard to grasp.
itsd hard to grasp because its not the rule. it doesnt get talked about, it doesnt get presented

real human rights activists talk about men and women not just women. you can claim they do but they don't they talk about womens rights not human rights. and never almost never men
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