Week 8 Chat & Predictions.

[Juxtaposition]

I won by no show and voted 5 times.

[Red glare]

I think unless you have matches ready to go you should leave them open for another night.

[Adonis]

@Split

let me know if you're doing the mag because I PM'd King Keith I think 5 pages of material and saved in just in case.

It's a special article I wrote along with all the no show love complete

FYI

[~RustyGunZ~]

this league is like a separate site wtf

[Objective]

@Innovator: ''grammar error and puntuation from both..so its not like either had an advantage in that aspect of the battle.''

I would really appreciate it if you could point them out and explain to me why/what is wrong. I didn't really pay much attention in school (wish I could go back in time and slap myself for that), and I lack the ability to write well when it comes to things like this. People seem to mention that the grammar errors are there but I'm having a hard time figuring out when I'm fucking up and when I don't.

[Inno]

@Objective

ill edit my vote with a bit more specifics for you...mind you though im not that great either lol

[Objective]

@Innovator: If too many commas is the only thing that bugged you I think I'm actually improving on that department. :) I thought it was more past/present tense, verbs etc.

Edit: I also want to thank everyone that has voted on our battle so far. A SHITLOAD of great feedback in there. Holy fuck. Props to you guys.

[Ink]

i always feel like an asshole when i vote... prepare yourselves guys...

i tend to focus on the negative more because everyone else gives you all plenty of the positives. ... is what i tell myself to feel like less of a dick >.>

edit:
shiet, work is busy and i gotta be heads down dealing with a client emergency.. i don't feel good about skimming verses quickly and then posting up a short unhelpful vote sooo... i'll take the hit this week and make mine up next week. my bad guys..
if you REALLY care what i think, i can pm you my thoughts at a later time though.. or if there's any battles open tomorrow, i'll vote then.

[Aesthetic]

Whats this shit about 5 votes be like 3 votes I leave for 2 weeks, 4 votes; and now 5?

You cant even put down a detailed vote without 15 + minutes yo, you expect everyone too have solid critique that ain't rushed? Like I mean, im not revolting lol just saying like a part time job dishwashing is like 1-3 hours... So uh like maybe help everyone out and put in a tally system with a small summary or cut the amount...

Like

Flo /10
Vocab /10
Wordplay /10
Story /10
Beginning /10
Climax /10

So and so killed it close call but overall came stronger and more detailed...

Some shit like that, im definitely not fixing on spending 2 hours voting on yalls stories; gonna start doing how I voted on these last battles if thats the case. I mean I will, but ya really gotta schedule it and cant put it off till the last day. Like a vote a day right, but shit gets busy man; it's hard too find that 10 minutes and that's just when your up for it...

just some points

[Ink]

^ i see where you're coming from. the issue i have with systems like that is, then you're basically saying every verse needs to hit certain criteria...
i'm a firm believer in knowing when certain mechanics are necessary/useful and not tossing things in for the sake of having them...

[King Ra.]

@Adonis I got everything you sent. Dope job man.

I'm bout to check out these vote tallies & close what needs to be closed.

[Aesthetic]

Originally Posted by Ink

^ i see where you're coming from. the issue i have with systems like that is, then you're basically saying every verse needs to hit certain criteria...
i'm a firm believer in knowing when certain mechanics are necessary/useful and not tossing things in for the sake of having them...

Im not saying change it too that specifically; Im just saying something should be done too change the amount of time we spend voting whether it's less votes or a new system. Because I cant put details on 5 minutes of voting, but then again I cant and don't wanna spend 30 minutes on 1 battle ya know when I could just say "Work on your flow, vocab. Vote goes too for a better piece 'Because:' "

But on the same level, as an artist I want a in depth breakdown and I feel like everyone deserves it. It's just a matter of time, scheduling, effort, motivation, thought, etc.

END SUMMARY

Im not gonna spend more time voting then I will be writing, and if it gets more then 2 hours too get these artists what they deserve then I will drop out of the league out of respect...

[King Ra.]

You don't need to write up a book of a breakdown when you vote. If you want to go that in-depth, you can. There are some who do that for some match ups and then a much simpler explanations for the others. It's not that difficult. No need for regulations. Voting on 5 match ups isn't bad. There are guys here who vote on every match up, every week. So really there is no excuse for anyone. If you feel you can't drop a decent explanation for at least 5 matches then you should sign out of the league. Voting is an integral part of a league as much as other factors are.

To those who are always slacking on votes, and I know who you are.... punishments will be handed down. As in, rejection from playoffs. So get it done every week mofo's.

[patrown]

Originally Posted by Aesthetic

Im not saying change it too that specifically; Im just saying something should be done too change the amount of time we spend voting whether it's less votes or a new system. Because I cant put details on 5 minutes of voting, but then again I cant and don't wanna spend 30 minutes on 1 battle ya know when I could just say "Work on your flow, vocab. Vote goes too for a better piece 'Because:' "

But on the same level, as an artist I want a in depth breakdown and I feel like everyone deserves it. It's just a matter of time, scheduling, effort, motivation, thought, etc.

END SUMMARY

Im not gonna spend more time voting then I will be writing, and if it gets more then 2 hours too get these artists what they deserve then I will drop out of the league out of respect...

hey man i really respect what you have to say, as much as i have to say something..

thinking to much about a vote to the point it becomes problematic.. might take away from the purpose.
if we get too involved with a piece, we can start to interject our own feelings about it..
as well as waste time. so if you're like me, maybe we just look too deep into shit
instead of giving our first thoughts like i feel i should. that's just me though. good points made though man. props.

[Split]

Originally Posted by Juxtaposition

I won by no show and voted 5 times.

Thanks. This is also what you're technically supposed to do

Originally Posted by Red glare

I think unless you have matches ready to go you should leave them open for another night.

I'm ok with this.

Originally Posted by Knucklehead

this league is like a separate site wtf

That's what I'm saying hahaha

Originally Posted by Aesthetic

Whats this shit about 5 votes be like 3 votes I leave for 2 weeks, 4 votes; and now 5?

You cant even put down a detailed vote without 15 + minutes yo, you expect everyone too have solid critique that ain't rushed? Like I mean, im not revolting lol just saying like a part time job dishwashing is like 1-3 hours... So uh like maybe help everyone out and put in a tally system with a small summary or cut the amount...

Like

Flo /10
Vocab /10
Wordplay /10
Story /10
Beginning /10
Climax /10

So and so killed it close call but overall came stronger and more detailed...

Some shit like that, im definitely not fixing on spending 2 hours voting on yalls stories; gonna start doing how I voted on these last battles if thats the case. I mean I will, but ya really gotta schedule it and cant put it off till the last day. Like a vote a day right, but shit gets busy man; it's hard too find that 10 minutes and that's just when your up for it...

just some points

Originally Posted by King Keith

You don't need to write up a book of a breakdown when you vote. If you want to go that in-depth, you can. There are some who do that for some match ups and then a much simpler explanations for the others. It's not that difficult. No need for regulations. Voting on 5 match ups isn't bad. There are guys here who vote on every match up, every week. So really there is no excuse for anyone. If you feel you can't drop a decent explanation for at least 5 matches then you should sign out of the league. Voting is an integral part of a league as much as other factors are.

To those who are always slacking on votes, and I know who you are.... punishments will be handed down. As in, rejection from playoffs. So get it done every week mofo's.

As Keith said, we don't need a novel of an explanation or something super logically deduced

It just should be what you likd from each verse, a quick review of what they did and what did or didn't work for them, and a final short bit why X person won

@King Keith I think excluding ppl from playoffs would be too harsh. We either gotta enforce voting laws in a better way (link thread works well) or tally up total missing votes

Also lets keep non blowouts open till tonight so ppl can vote. But y'all do have a deadline to be fair haha, it just is the league is running better than it theoretically should. Anamoly

I think if you get no showed u only should owe 3 votes, cause it saps motivation and its one less battle to vote on

Originally Posted by Red glare

How about a tag week?

I love tag battles. I think it would actually get voted on in a league this active/ large
Thanks for suggestions/ inputs yo

[Split]

Originally Posted by patrown

hey man i really respect what you have to say, as much as i have to say something..

thinking to much about a vote to the point it becomes problematic.. might take away from the purpose.
if we get too involved with a piece, we can start to interject our own feelings about it..
as well as waste time. so if you're like me, maybe we just look too deep into shit
instead of giving our first thoughts like i feel i should. that's just me though. good points made though man. props.

Voting on art should be personal, I think. There are so many styles here, it's pointless to look at mechanics/ aesthetics as the base for voting lol. "Personal enjoyment" as long as its justified (often by mechanics/aesthetics) should be the deciding factor. Otherwise whatever 'site' is most dominant in our beautiful fledgling conglomerate AOWL will start dominating other styles

[patrown]

our different outlooks.. both kind of make sense in a way.
but i definitely think your polar opposite approach is the more appropriate here.
thanks for the input.

edit: i'm recreating the wheel over here.. felt i was interjecting too much opinion in judgement , rather than taking an outside look. however, i'm stuck at a crossroad.
in one hand, i'm told.. practice what you preach.
at the same time, i can't come close to emulating some pieces i'm willing to criticize.
so it's a fine balance for me , over here.

[Split]

Yeah I have the same problem. But some of the best criticism I have gotten has been from people who have writing issues of their own.

[King Ra.]

@Split ain't nothing wrong with instilling some fear in these guys, ya know? :)

I hear you though. So we will enforce posting links. I re-opened Adonis/Nigma. People who are no showed will only be asked to vote on 3. And I will incorporate tag week around week 10 or 11.


So new battles up tonight. Mag will follow Thursday night. Get'n ready for work now. I'll holler folks.

[Matriarch]

proper feed edited in.

sorry guys.