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Old 11-17-2014, 07:11 PM   #1
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my go to when women get uppity about equality is I CAN'T PUNCH YOU IN THE FACE THO

i got into it with a feminist dyke a few years ago on the very subject. and by got into it i was my charming hilarious non threatening self of a few years ago bantering playfully and mystically.

basically i said if i could punch you in the face we'd be equal

she was like no thats retarded, you "can't" punch a man in the face either. to which i countered, duh nigga. but that would just be "assault", if i punched you, its "assault on a woman" which is much more serious. to which she replied some PHOOEY about men having broader shoulders and narrower hips and just being genetically superior at punching humans in the face in reference to women.

to which i responded

THEN HOW ARE WE EQUAL

THEN I GOT HEAD FROM HER GIRLFRIEND

GO DO SOME DISHES HO

but nah in all seriousness tho, im not anti women, i'm anti this nonsense that they can do everything men can do. they can, not. physically and mentally we are not equal. I mean maybe if you consider 1 lb of iron and 1 lb of feathers equal, then yea sure we are equal. but im sure you don't want to get hit in the face with the pound of iron.

my point being, women are good at things. men are good at things. some of those things overlap. some don't

feminism to me is a delusion of people thinking that ALL those things overlap. they do not, to think so is to be misguided.

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physical strength and so forth is not the basis of equality. this 2014 not 1420.

"equality" in the case of feminism isnt about door holding, or if it's ok to punch them

it's things like being paid equal for the same job. white women in america make about 0.77 to a dollar of what a man makes for the same job on average. for minority women it's even worse.

state governments repeatedly attempt to ban birth control for women, or at least make it difficult to obtain. have no issues vs condoms or vasectomies.

fighting vs rape culture, etc.

there's a ton of other inequality issues I don't feel like typing out, and chances are you won't even read this shit but if you do I think you can get the gist?
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Old 11-17-2014, 07:29 PM   #2
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i gagged a little bit at the mention of rape culture, not gonna lie.

@kannon to thread lol.

but nah for real i don't think i even understand what rape culture is, i've only heard comedians reference it in terms of like, them saying a rape joke and people being like omg thats not funny!!

but word objective, you live in the civilized world so feminism is probably different there. america is full of filthy ill informed barbarians who pick sides and hold them futilely in the hope that the side they chose is correct
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someone explain equal rights to me?

nothing is equal in life. it is a genetic lottery, white males only have it better because of where they are born (generally speaking of course.) it all boils down to class issues as far as the white male privelege goes. white people from squalor go to the same deplorable schools as minorities which get no funding because the taxpayers in the districts make no money to fund it and the ones that do make a little money usually dump it into useless shit like sports programs so maybe one kid every 40 years makes it to the professional level while 500+ a year wash out with a terrible education living in the same terrible neighborhoods where they all fight for the same terrible jobs and end up looking for the same terrible shortcuts which lead to the beginning of the cycle where they have children ETC

as far as women tho, i don't get it. to me everything is already equal, in a sense. if my dream was to be a starbucks barista it would be pretty far fetched for them to hire a bald bearded hooligan who is straight. but if i was a woman, even an ugly fat one my chances would skyrocket. and on the flipside, no warehouse would choose the bulliest of dykes over me to move boxes and do manual labor. i'm a beast out here.

that in itself is a form of gender equality. but when you hear equality you think, well shit i have every right to be a barista and she has every right to be a laborer.

AND WE DO

my biggest problem with "gender equality" comes into play when you talk about marriages, and relationships involving kids. women are wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy ahead of men there, constantly.

i can't think of one, ONE scenario where men have such a stranglehold on any aspect of life, like women do when it comes to robbing men for there money, and there HAPPINESS/CHILDREN
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Old 11-17-2014, 07:21 PM   #4
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my biggest problem with "gender equality" comes into play when you talk about marriages, and relationships involving kids. women are wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy ahead of men there, constantly.

i can't think of one, ONE scenario where men have such a stranglehold on any aspect of life, like women do when it comes to robbing men for there money, and there HAPPINESS/CHILDREN
And this is where Mens Rights comes into play, which is a branch of feminism. It's just that since shit's getting evened out in certain fields it tips the scale other places as well. As things get better new shit pop up that needs attention too. I agree 100% and A SHITLOAD OF FEMINISTS do too when it comes to this kind of shit. This is wrong and should be fought against, it's not equal, that's what feminists are for.

I voted for a political party in Norway that counts itself as feminist and those issues you pulled forth here is one of their agendas to work towards in order to reach equal rights for both parents when it comes to that shit.
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Old 11-17-2014, 07:34 PM   #5
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is it like women afraid of being raped? because its a double edged sword yo. women see me and do one of two things

either hunger for my seed, smelling the pheromones of my delicious essence wafting from my elegant beard, or they literally shy away in fear of me.

this makes me feel like a MONSTER

so lets kill rape culture. women should see me as the lovable tender adorable god i am. not as someone who could easily overpower and penetrate them sexually.
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@Passenger I see feminism as the subset of egalitarianism ("equal rights for all") which deals specifically with women's rights/issues. You can be a feminist and not be an egalitarian, which makes you a shitty human being, but you can't be an egalitarian without being a feminist. Even if most feminists are not egalitarians (which I don't believe to be true), that doesn't mean they are shitty people because they are feminists, it means they are shitty people because they are not egalitarians.

Feminism is the belief that women should have the same rights and opportunities as men. That's it. If you agree with that, you are a feminist.

@uh-oh if Starbucks won't hire you because of your gender or appearance that is some form of discrimination, certainly, but not an argument against feminism. If a warehouse won't hire a woman because she is a woman, that's a feminist issue. If a warehouse won't hire "a person" because there are other applicants, male or female, who are better suited to the job, that's just common sense. Not a feminist issue.

Men's rights are often the other side of the same coin. Especially the one you bring up. Why do you think courts/authorities think it's an acceptable arrangement for a father to pay huge amounts of child support and hardly get to see his kids? Because "men are providers and women are nurturers". Feminism tries to erase this belief and replace it with the belief that both parents have a responsibility to provide for and nurture their children.
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Someone asked what rape culture is.

Rape is sex without consent. It is not just sex where a woman is struggling and screaming no.

Rape culture is (amongst other things) a belief that having sex with a woman who is too drunk/high to give consent, or who is even passed out, is not rape. Or is "not so bad", "not a huge deal". Take the Stuebenville trial for example. I don't believe those kids are monsters, I just believe they are extremely dumb and they grew up in a culture that eventually led them to hold the abovementioned beliefs. They are still rapists. But look how many people defended them and their actions. Look how much media attention was devoted to 'what a shame these young mens' lives have been destroyed' instead of the impact on the girl.

Rape culture is also the belief that if a woman is initially reluctant, it's OK to keep pressuring her until she gives in. So long as she's not saying no while your dick is in her, it's not rape. Great example is this scene from Rocky:



Rape culture is when people shift part of the blame for rape onto the victim. "What was she wearing?", "was she drunk?", "was she acting slutty?" etc.
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Rape is sex without consent. It is not just sex where a woman is struggling and screaming no.

Rape culture is (amongst other things) a belief that having sex with a woman who is too drunk/high to give consent
When talking about rape culture, please for the love of God... Also include the countless of men that have experienced being taken advantage of as well and it's considered funny, not a big deal, nothing to worry about etc. on the false belief that all men want sex anyways. This includes minors having sex with teachers and babysitters at a young age to being taken advantage of while intoxicated (this shit go both ways) and sexual harassment/pressure at the workplace and it being taken lightly by society etc.
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When talking about rape culture, please for the love of God... Also include the countless of men that have experienced being taken advantage of as well and it's considered funny, not a big deal, nothing to worry about etc. on the false belief that all men want sex anyways. This includes minors having sex with teachers and babysitters at a young age to being taken advantage of while intoxicated (this shit go both ways) and sexual harassment/pressure at the workplace and it being taken lightly by society etc.
You're right. Apologies for the omission.
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From what I've seen, +2 dominate.
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but nah lol show me where them steubenville kids were pitied?

everything i seen depicted them as monsters, no one thinks its cool to get a chick drunk/roofie her to sleep with her. you act like this is accepted in society

also no woman is to blame for being RAPED, but women who objectify themselves by having their titties and ass out can't complain when men catcall and ogle them etc. yoga pants are accepted by society but if i breathe in like tssssssssss and bite my knuckle somehow i'm a villain? its in my dna nigga. don't show me your ass, i can see your pussy. everything in me wants to spread the seed in anything remotely decent looking, this doesnt mean im gonna RAPE

but you gotta understand on the flipside of the coin that mens brains operate completely differently in general

saying all men want sex is not a lie, all HUMANS want sex, in general, unless they have mental DISORDERS and are asexual or were abused etc

but yo to me its DISGUSTING that if me and a chick fuck, and she thinks, nah i shouldnt have did that the next day, or even NEXT WEEK/YEAR/DECADE, she can say it was rape, even if she consented to it with a clear mind at the time

so fuck that

there should be levels to rape like levels to murder, you can't have the same cut and dry rape charge for everything. if something like that scenario happens that i presented, it shouldnt carry the same charge and villainization as some homeless guy cornering and fucking a chick in a laundromat forcefully
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but nah lol show me where them steubenville kids were pitied?

everything i seen depicted them as monsters, no one thinks its cool to get a chick drunk/roofie her to sleep with her. you act like this is accepted in society

also no woman is to blame for being RAPED, but women who objectify themselves by having their titties and ass out can't complain when men catcall and ogle them etc. yoga pants are accepted by society but if i breathe in like tssssssssss and bite my knuckle somehow i'm a villain? its in my dna nigga. don't show me your ass, i can see your pussy. everything in me wants to spread the seed in anything remotely decent looking, this doesnt mean im gonna RAPE

but you gotta understand on the flipside of the coin that mens brains operate completely differently in general

saying all men want sex is not a lie, all HUMANS want sex, in general, unless they have mental DISORDERS and are asexual or were abused etc

but yo to me its DISGUSTING that if me and a chick fuck, and she thinks, nah i shouldnt have did that the next day, or even NEXT WEEK/YEAR/DECADE, she can say it was rape, even if she consented to it with a clear mind at the time

so fuck that

there should be levels to rape like levels to murder, you can't have the same cut and dry rape charge for everything. if something like that scenario happens that i presented, it shouldnt carry the same charge and villainization as some homeless guy cornering and fucking a chick in a laundromat forcefully
rape is rape. if there's consent not rape. if not consent, it is rape. it is cut and dry. it's that simple.

and jfc

women who show off their bodies aren't objectifying themselves ffs

they want attention? maybe, probably, quite likely.

but the attention they want isn't having obscenities shouted at them, or being made to feel threatened.

a gang of dudes yelling "NICE TITS BITCH" aggressively is in no way acceptable.

of course we all want sex, but the problem women have with cat calling / street harassment is that is not how you go about getting it.

if she looks fine and you are turned on by her, how about act like a civil person, treat her like a human when you talk to her, and maybe you'll actually succeed instead of being called a villain? shrug

as for regret, yes, that does happen and it is unfortunate. but the thing is the minority can't ruin it for everybody. but nobody brings up the fact that type of toxic behavior is an issue feminists discuss. as is sexual assaults against men, and the toxic belief that a man can't be sexually harassed or assaulted.
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rape is rape. if there's consent not rape. if not consent, it is rape. it is cut and dry. it's that simple.

and jfc

women who show off their bodies aren't objectifying themselves ffs

they want attention? maybe, probably, quite likely.

but the attention they want isn't having obscenities shouted at them, or being made to feel threatened.

a gang of dudes yelling "NICE TITS BITCH" aggressively is in no way acceptable.

of course we all want sex, but the problem women have with cat calling / street harassment is that is not how you go about getting it.

if she looks fine and you are turned on by her, how about act like a civil person, treat her like a human when you talk to her, and maybe you'll actually succeed instead of being called a villain? shrug

as for regret, yes, that does happen and it is unfortunate. but the thing is the minority can't ruin it for everybody. but nobody brings up the fact that type of toxic behavior is an issue feminists discuss. as is sexual assaults against men, and the toxic belief that a man can't be sexually harassed or assaulted.


So women should be allowed to wear and do as they wish but men have to be controlled even verbally around them?

Hey you can walk around showing ur tits but unless u get written consent she is feeling you then you can not speak on said titties because it is "harassment"

that hsit is fucking ridiculous. ur not treating women equal your treating women special which congrats its what they want. u fall into the feminist category.

if a man walks around with his dick hanging out he is going to get reaction, they dont because they represent themself in a different way

so its ok for women to do? equality isnt what your after
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So women should be allowed to wear and do as they wish but men have to be controlled even verbally around them?

Hey you can walk around showing ur tits but unless u get written consent she is feeling you then you can not speak on said titties because it is "harassment"

that hsit is fucking ridiculous. ur not treating women equal your treating women special which congrats its what they want. u fall into the feminist category.

if a man walks around with his dick hanging out he is going to get reaction, they dont because they represent themself in a different way

so its ok for women to do? equality isnt what your after
Rubbish. I hold women to exactly the same standards. If a man has his dick out I expect him to get arrested. If a women literally has her titties out I expect the same. If she's showing cleavage or wearing tight jeans, that's her right and no a man does not have a right to catcall her because of it. Similarly, if a man is shirtless or wearing those super tight compression pants you can see te outline of your dick through or w/e a woman doesn't have the right to catcall him because of it.

Maybe you'd see it better if I put it like this: instead of a woman catcalling you, who is not physically threatening and whom you might be imagining is somewhat attractive, imagine it's one of those gay dudes that hit the gym HARD. A dude that is fuck off big, that you can easily gauge you have no chance to best him if it comes to that. Imagine you're going about your business. Maybe you went for a run and it's hot so you're wearing shorts and you took your shirt off. The gay guy ogles you and wolf whistles as you walk by. How you feeling?
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Rubbish. I hold women to exactly the same standards. If a man has his dick out I expect him to get arrested. If a women literally has her titties out I expect the same. If she's showing cleavage or wearing tight jeans, that's her right and no a man does not have a right to catcall her because of it. Similarly, if a man is shirtless or wearing those super tight compression pants you can see te outline of your dick through or w/e a woman doesn't have the right to catcall him because of it.

Maybe you'd see it better if I put it like this: instead of a woman catcalling you, who is not physically threatening and whom you might be imagining is somewhat attractive, imagine it's one of those gay dudes that hit the gym HARD. A dude that is fuck off big, that you can easily gauge you have no chance to best him if it comes to that. Imagine you're going about your business. Maybe you went for a run and it's hot so you're wearing shorts and you took your shirt off. The gay guy ogles you and wolf whistles as you walk by. How you feeling?
I am o.k. with it, if no one puts there hands on me and if i said look im nopt down with it im good with where i am. and then they stop im good.

pursuit is a part of the process, plus women do the same exact thing but don't get any mention at all thats my point for true equality it shouldnt even be called fucking feminism lol it should be equalinism or some shit

plus I see plenty of women half naked then get mad when someone even compliments then. attraction is a part of life especially sexual attraction. for you to say its wrong is ridiculous. I see a lot of mind sets where they think if the women is ok with it its k to pursue the man. thats a one way street needing to have 2 way implementations.

and also in one fucking sentance you are saying to treat someone equally and not judge by how they look then you turn around and describe the man as being muscular and intimidating. so which is it?

ur mind set is why social justice is fucking gay bro

because you want to call for equality but its not , even ur mind is biased whether you admit it or not.
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Rubbish. I hold women to exactly the same standards. If a man has his dick out I expect him to get arrested. If a women literally has her titties out I expect the same. If she's showing cleavage or wearing tight jeans, that's her right and no a man does not have a right to catcall her because of it. Similarly, if a man is shirtless or wearing those super tight compression pants you can see te outline of your dick through or w/e a woman doesn't have the right to catcall him because of it.

Maybe you'd see it better if I put it like this: instead of a woman catcalling you, who is not physically threatening and whom you might be imagining is somewhat attractive, imagine it's one of those gay dudes that hit the gym HARD. A dude that is fuck off big, that you can easily gauge you have no chance to best him if it comes to that. Imagine you're going about your business. Maybe you went for a run and it's hot so you're wearing shorts and you took your shirt off. The gay guy ogles you and wolf whistles as you walk by. How you feeling?
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